[alinnisip1]

bmw oil its expensive 230 for 6 litters . Yes been told fluid was low but no leak ...could be internal problems .

 

[brucefraser12011962]

oil is around 70 for 20L, the oil would need to go somewhere regardless of internal issues and if the fluid has been low for a while that could be your cause, if you have no leaks then its been like that since you got the car, fill level is very specific and critical to proper operation

 

[alinnisip1]

Check this out

Pardon our interruption...

 

[brucefraser12011962]

i get what you are saying,but bmw atf is aisin atf which is identical to the same spec mannol, there is literally no difference

 

[alinnisip1]

there is difference when you dont diy . You cant tell the Bmw garage to use 2 ponds mannol oil

 

[brucefraser12011962]

very true

 

[PAS593]

Update to post . Did the flush and fluid change was low and dirty but NOT HELPING . Car its drivable atm all gears working but i can feel something isnt right . Rough changes at low speed
im sure will go any moment back to limp mode .
So any who have this issues CHANGING FUIDS ITS NOT HELPING only leave you 400 short . Im still looking for a place to repair and sell the car ( with warranty that issues are gone ) or to change the
gearbox with remanufactured one found for 2500 inc labour .
Only problem i have to get the car to Essex ( 500 miles ) .

Update: had my gear box swapped out today, managed to find a used one with 50k miles on and a replacement torque converter and car drives like new, £3300 all in for the components, labour and oil, but...... now got an error code with the 'oxygen sensor after catalytic converter, signal: short circuit to B+' - maybe been dislodged/moved from the swap out? Part looks relatively inexpensive.

@brucefraser12011962 - any idea where that probe is located, is it on the exhaust manifold?

 

[brucefraser12011962]

Update: had my gear box swapped out today, managed to find a used one with 50k miles on and a replacement torque converter and car drives like new, £3300 all in for the components, labour and oil, but...... now got an error code with the 'oxygen sensor after catalytic converter, signal: short circuit to B+' - maybe been dislodged/moved from the swap out? Part looks relatively inexpensive.

@brucefraser12011962 - any idea where that probe is located, is it on the exhaust manifold?

glad you got sorted and IMO thats a great price, number 1 on the diagram is what you are looking for, worth checking the plug and wire first

 

[PAS593]

yes its the last one on the system from the DPF behind the plastic trays drivers side which are the hardest part of the job, it's an easy swap, there is 2 the other is the DPF particulate sensor nearest the filter, not too expensive If i remember right, glad you got sorted and IMO thats a great price, number 1 on the diagram is what you are looking for View attachment 287730

great thanks for that will give it a go.. yes much cheaper than 6k plus main dealer installation costs. The labour was £500 which I thought was more than reasonable.

 

[brucefraser12011962]

i have changed my answer, having a bad day sorry

 

[D19SMA]

2018 X1 20d same issue. Went to BMW today and they say it needs a full new gearbox. Car only has 31,000 on the clock and FSH.

Car currently has an Auto Care warrant in place however Arnold Clark are only willing to cover the first £6000 of what is looking like £11,000 worth of work.

Told the guy Im going to email BMW as I’ve concerned that a gearbox has failed on a 6 year old car with 31k on the clock and I’m now expected pay for the repair given that it’s clearly a known fault.

anyone had any joy with good will from BMW or had dealings with Arnold Clark auto care for the same issue?

 

[D19SMA]

Update to my previous post. Warranty administrators have authorised Local BMW dealer to replace auto box, but dealer tells me they won’t pay for original diagnostic work (about £160 +vat) can’t see in the small print in the warranty book why they shouldn’t pay this as well - interested in hearing any views and advice, thanks

Was it Arnold Clark by chance and an Auto care warranty?

 

[symze01]

2018 X1 20d same issue. Went to BMW today and they say it needs a full new gearbox. Car only has 31,000 on the clock and FSH.

Car currently has an Auto Care warrant in place however Arnold Clark are only willing to cover the first £6000 of what is looking like £11,000 worth of work.

Told the guy Im going to email BMW as I’ve concerned that a gearbox has failed on a 6 year old car with 31k on the clock and I’m now expected pay for the repair given that it’s clearly a known fault.

anyone had any joy with good will from BMW or had dealings with Arnold Clark auto care for the same issue?

Yes, but first ask your dealer to push BMW UK for a goodwill, I’d expect at least 50% on a car with so few miles. No joy then go direct to BMW UK complaints.

 

[davidmbell]

Is there any evidence out there as to what model years this (potential) gearbox fault can affect? I've recently bought a 2016 X1 XDrive 20D with this Aisin box and my dealer supplied warranty runs out tomorrow. I've been looking at ALA Insurance Aftermarket Warranty for it (as it covers up to £14k) but quickly skimming through this post it seems most are 2018 cars?

Anyone know for sure if its a newer car thing, and if earlier X1s are "less" at risk?

TIA

David

 

[evkar1988]

HI guys.

The cars on the MINI platform such as X1, X2, MINI made between 2018-2019 can have a defective gearbox.

My story.

Bought a used X2 2018 20I XDrive in August 2023 (milliage at the moment of buy was 30000 KM) . The gearbox is 8AT Aisin. Noticed the kicks on 3, 5 and rear gear with delay up to 10 seconds and kick from time to time.

I had come to official BMW and they told me it's out of warranty, as the car was almost 5 years, just proposed me to replace that for about 10K Euro. I told it's nonsense, milliage is low and no gearbox in the world must be broken on this milliage. They told me just "sorry".

This year in July the car started kicking all the time and I had come to officials again. I already had another case with my friend who bought the same car (same model, year etc) and he successfully replaced the gearbox by warranty. So I insisted that they must manage my case as warranty as milliage is too low for a gearbox to be broken (the milliage was around 40K at that moment)

A person managing my case helped me a lot. He made diagnostic and wrote in the BMW headquarter. They approved replacement by warranty both: labour and the part. Only one thing I covered from my pocket were two broken engine mounts, as due to kicks they had torn.

So, who has the same problem and low milliage even if the car is out of warranty, insist on the free replacement.

 

[Dcash29]

Another Aisin 8 speed gearbox failing here, 2018 with 39k km, not under warranty. We should all do something toghther.

DEFINITELY!

ANOTHER Aisin auto trouble, 2019 X1 auto, 38k mileage, snatching gear between 3&4.

Could be the torque converter by a UK transmission company who have repaired a good number month apparently £6k minimum.

 

[Dcash29]

HI guys.

The cars on the MINI platform such as X1, X2, MINI made between 2018-2019 can have a defective gearbox.

My story.

Bought a used X2 2018 20I XDrive in August 2023 (milliage at the moment of buy was 30000 KM) . The gearbox is 8AT Aisin. Noticed the kicks on 3, 5 and rear gear with delay up to 10 seconds and kick from time to time.

I had come to official BMW and they told me it's out of warranty, as the car was almost 5 years, just proposed me to replace that for about 10K Euro. I told it's nonsense, milliage is low and no gearbox in the world must be broken on this milliage. They told me just "sorry".

This year in July the car started kicking all the time and I had come to officials again. I already had another case with my friend who bought the same car (same model, year etc) and he successfully replaced the gearbox by warranty. So I insisted that they must manage my case as warranty as milliage is too low for a gearbox to be broken (the milliage was around 40K at that moment)

A person managing my case helped me a lot. He made diagnostic and wrote in the BMW headquarter. They approved replacement by warranty both: labour and the part. Only one thing I covered from my pocket were two broken engine mounts, as due to kicks they had torn.

So, who has the same problem and low milliage even if the car is out of warranty, insist on the free replacement.

I've got exactly the same issue with my 2019 X1. 37,500 miles and the gears are snatching between 3/4. Any further advice would be grateful as BMW UK state mine is out of warranty, however the item was obviously not fit for purpose when manufactured.

 

[Dcash29]

Look what i found out guys VW Transmission Lawsuit Won't Be Dismissed
.... this its the same gearbox !!!
We need to get together !!!!

Is there a contact list where we can communicate and take bmw to court

 

[Bibotelli]

Can I ask a daft question, if bmw replace the gearbox, is the issue likely to return in 20-30k miles again with the new gearbox?

 

[Johnnyroper]

No idea if there have been any improvements to them but given it’s quite a range of ages affected I would hazard a guess and say even with a replacement box it’s likely issues will crop up again down the line.