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2004 E46 330cd remapped - need uprated clutch!

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#1 ·
Just like to say hi to everyone as this is the first post, had my 330cd remapped recently and is now showing 288bhp on the dyno print out, along with 620nm (ish) of torque. I always take dyno figures with a grain of salt, but im pretty sure the torque is well on, as this thing destroys my golf which had 386nm (1.9gttdi pd 130)

Anyway back to the main topic...

Since the remap the torque has destroyed my stock clutch, it slipped heavily when it revs over 2.5k, even if foot is only 2/3 way down.

Ive been looking at the uprated clutches and came to the conclusion that the 330i and the 330d/cd both use the same clutch?

If this is true, can anyone recommend a good uprated one for my car, i just need it to handle all the torque properly as i can hardly drive this car flat out anymore, its even slips in 6th at 2.5k (foot all way down)

forgot to add... ive found this one on ebay, dont know if it will fit, any suggestions?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...iewItem&item=160271783923&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:Watchlink:middle:us

Thanks all!

Moda

p.s. will upload pics of the dyno if anyone wants them, just ask.
 
#5 ·
im a little worried about putting a standard clutch back into this car, one bad launch could destroy it and would only mean i would eventually shell out for an uprated one.

If anyone has any suggestions of some decent uprated clutches feel free to comment, its very annoying not being able to use the cars full power at the moment :(
 
#8 ·
According to that dyno
The before figures tell you that your car had 216bhp 330 lb ft torque.
Howcome? - standard it should be 204bhp & 302 lb ft torque.

Have you done something else to it? or is the machine needing calibrated?
288bhp does seem a tad on the high side.
DMS - tune theres pretty high to 260bhp for this car....

:confused
David
 
#9 ·
I would agree with putting an original clutch back in.

A friend remapped his 330d and had big tourque figures, his clutch only lasted one day before slipping.

So he fitted what was ment to be a uprated clutch, and it didnt even last a full day before slipping badly.

So he took the car back to have the remap turned down. The tuner said they had done that map many times before with no clutch problems, and they all had standard clutches.

So he fitted a new genuine bmw clutch and has had it over a year now, and no problems. And he does`nt drive it easy either!
 
#10 ·
a matter of time before the torque your so proud of will eventually destroy the rest of your drivetrain inc the DMF (dual mass flywheel), engine and gearbox mounts propshaft guibo and bearing amongst other things..

torque pulse is highly destructive and you will prolly start getting the dreaded rumble and vibration when flooring it.. that will be your DMF bottoming out and being unable to absorb the increased torque thus transferring the unabsorbed torque directly to your drivetrain and prolly why its overcoming your clutch friction too..

extreme mapping with stoopid output figures you get whats you deserve in afraid..
 
#12 ·
I see the last post in this thread is 2010 so not sure if I need to follow up? But I have just had mine remapped by evolve & is the same motor. Now running 262bhp & +400ft/lb. I got it on the motor way on the way home from the map & got slight clutch slip in the higher gears straight away, it has just done 100k tho & never had a clutch. I am going to replace with standard clutch & flywheel. Not done yet so cannot advise results. I am sure you have resolved yours now. Was interested what you ended up with? Uprated or standard?

Oh & dailydoggy, why post such a negative & unhelpful post?
 
#11 ·
interesting reading..my e92 330d was remapped to 290bhp and 500Ibs of torque goes like a rocket eats 335diesels.
however i get very slight clutch slip in 4th accelarating past 2100rpm or in 5th at those revs. spoke to evolve who do loads of 330s and they say they have not had any clutch slip reports and said put a standard bmw clutch in or they can lower torque curve. My mate runs bmworx so next week im gonna get him to test drive it and maybe cough up for new bmw standard clutch...think we have just been unlucky , my car is motorway miles 48 k. driven very easy most of time. ill report back anyway guys...
and i have a mate who had an e46 with same figures as your car he did 98 thous miles (45 thous remapped miles) with no drivetrain rumbles or clutch slips, the cars are more than capable of handling the power of course loads of standing starts and stuff wont help your car last lol.
 
#14 ·
288 sounds quite high if its only remapped without anything else done to it. the standard figure is high to begin with so i would say its probably around 8-10% lower than what youve been quoted. but there are a lot of horror stories with uprated clutches that arent from well known brands so i would probably stay away from them tbh.
 
#15 ·
Wow I bet thats a joy to drive with the 288bhp. Just out of curiosity can the traction handle that enormous increase in power, or do you get a lot of wheelspin.

Does anyone no how much bhp increase I would get if i remapped and fitted an exhaust (backbox) on 330i and would this harshly affect mpg. Loads of people reckon better economy with remap if driven sensibly..... but who remaps a petrol engine to drive it sensibly. Im looking for a backbox thats a bit more vocal, not too exaggerated and not too bothered if it doesnt add power either.
 
#17 ·
Your Torque figures look very high. The dyno results here are from my 330d which BW Chiptune dyno'd for me last Thursday. It's not BW's map though, not sure where the original map came from. The car has done 179k miles, had a new standard clutch at 140k miles, still on the original DMF.

My replacement car is another 330d manual from 2004 in better nick with a few less miles, BW will be mapping it thsi week, expecting 280bhp and similar torque figures, I'll let you know how I get on!
 

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#18 ·
Good gains on the remp , my530 e60 is running 289bhp and 556lb tourqe, the only thing it suffers from is over boost somtimes when its booted in high gear,s,,, say 5th or 6th and this sounds like clutch slip, i just go down a gear to get away and boy dose she fly.
 
#20 ·
Yes they have a Dyno on site. I can't give you an exact figure for the cost of the session though as Im part way through a 2-stage process, dyno the old car for reference and then map the new car according to my requirements and some changes.

Give Jason a call at BW Chiptune
 
#21 ·
"Your Torque figures look very high. The dyno results here are from my 330d which BW Chiptune dyno'd for me last Thursday. It's not BW's map though, not sure where the original map came from. The car has done 179k miles, had a new standard clutch at 140k miles, still on the original DMF."

Can i ask if that dyno printout is for a early 184 model or the later 204? Only asking as i asked simon from emaps to give me a full power map with him quoting me 245bhp and 500nm/370lbft and after having it rolling roaded it only made 223bhp and 370lbft. A friend of mine had is e60 m5v10 done at the same time and we think the rolling road was reading low?

Simon gave my car a health check and only picked up on one injector which was slightly down which actually feels like it has improved, (slight rough idle when car gets hot in traffic) gone now?!

If yours is a 184 thats a seriously good bhp figure!:hihi
 
#22 ·
Forgive the thread resurrection but i've just had my 2001 E46 330d remapped to a modest 220bhp and 425 lb/ft and i'm getting a little clutch slip around 2.5-3k. Should I just go for a good quality standard clutch or something uprated? I dont plan on adding any more power, just want something that will cope with what I have.

Cheers, Stu
 
#23 ·
Interesting read, came across this thread searching for clutch options as my 2004 manual 330d sport has slight slip undee heavy load at peak torque range. I bought the car on saturday unaware was already mapped, took it straight to bw chiptune for health check where it dyno'd at 285bhp & 450lbft.

Im new to bmws, but not to tuned cars.....so what are my clutch options?? Thanks in advance
 
#25 ·
Makes me laugh when people risk destroying the car worth thousands on a ecu remap costing a few hundred i followed the crowd as you do remapped mine trialed it for 7 days then put it back to original bmw ecu map yes the throttle response was sharper even the mpg increases but i noticed straight away the extra torque would stress other components just through feeling extra vibrations on acceleration so went straight back to have it put back to how bmw intended and i love how the car feels again
 
#27 ·
My 330d has been remapped way before I got it, 270 BHP and over 400 ld/ft of torque, had a new LUK clutch at 140k and now at 201k the clutch is still fine, still on the original DMF etc and only the second guibo. I thrash the car mercilessly and had no trouble with the drivertrain, not sure where all the anti-map talk comes from?

I've had 330i and 330d clutches fail at the 100-130k point so this is probably their life anyway.