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F48 X1 Xdrive 2018 Aisin gearbox problems!

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#1 ·
Hi all

I'm new to BMW ownership and have a 2018 X1 Xdrive with the 8 speed auto box that has quickly started developing problems.

Unfortunately BMW want £8k for a replacement box so am hoping to find advice on garages that could repair the gearbox.
 
#8 ·
There is no engine light or warning light.

When slowing down to near crawling speeds the car will suddenly dump the clutch into a gear causing a thud sound and sometimes a violent lurch.

Took the car to BMW and they hooked it up and couldn't find anything wrong. They then took it on a test drive and noticed the problem and then I think hooked it up to a module of some sort.

"Related service solution (printed) GBSEL-SELP24-20000813331985-01

Fault patterns test module on ista for transmission jerking. Test module concludes will require new gearbox"

The dealer initially said they would do something as near warranty period but when they found it was purchased elsewhere they want the full £8k+VAT.

Car has Full BMW service history.

Searching online ive found 2 similar cases both 2018 X1 but they managed to get it repaired under warranty and then 4 minis all 2018 also.

Not sure who I can contact at BMW other than going through dealer network.
 
#9 ·
Nightmare…
sounds a like it could be valve/megatronics issue. Typical response from bmw just replace the box rather than repair it.
BMW probably say it’s sealed for life as they do with the zf boxes rather than factor in a service schedule.
Wonder if a service might cure it, if you get nowhere with the dealer try and find a service partner for help & advice, the gearbox is well used by other manufacturers so should be a few around by now

You would hope that they give you a goodwill gesture being such a major component & should last way longer than that

 
#11 ·
Just to update this:

BMW are not willing to offer any goodwill as I did not purchase directly from BMW. Full main dealer service history etc does not help.

I have previously purchased another vehicle new from BMW but that is not taken into consideration.

Slightly disappointed that a major component such as a gearbox can fail at 4 years and under 60K miles and essentially be treated as a consumable part.
 
#263 ·
I did not also purchased directly, I was third owner and they accepted goodwill warranty for this issue and I got new gearbox. Try send email on
kundenbetreuung@bmw.de if EU citizen.

But...
New gearbox starting to have issues just after 10k miles so Im afraid they inputed again new one with factory fault, we need to complain all together or find way to write some petiton to report it

Good luck
 
#25 ·
Hi, I’m not a car expert so I’m looking for advice please. I have a 2018 X1 which I bought from a BMW dealership. Recently I have heard a whirring noise from the engine. BMW’s computer has found no fault but on further inspection by another garage there is a rattling noise from the automatic gearbox (no problem with the functioning of the gearbox at present).Going back to BMW they have accepted there is a problem and said it needs to be replaced. Car has only done 35k!!! I’m so disappointed to say the least. Quoted £9k minus goodwill £4k to pay out. What shall I do? I’m reluctant to pay this as there is clearly a problem with the part which should not fail at this age. Thanks.
 
#26 ·
2018 X2 2.0d with the Aisin 8sp at 27 thousand miles i was getting similar symptoms to the OP, BMW say sealed for life but Aisin say ATF change every 30 thousand, mine would change down harshly and bang into reverse, up shifts were fine though, a pressure flush is not recommended because of the risk of dislodging one or more of the many seals, so 3 flushes seem to be the norm, another issue was trying to get the spec for the ATF as Aisin call it a World ATF or similar, but it's very expensive to buy in one litre containers, i finally found that MANNOL 20L GM DEXRON VI 6 is the right spec, [BMW says its ATF 7 which does not exist] as shown i bought 20l and did 5 flushes which left the ATF in the box spotless, the old ATF was black and so bad i thought i had opened the wrong drain plug ! and i must admit i was very worried at the colour, anyway after following the correct procedures for temp and level etc i found my gearbox transformed, i am lucky enough to have to good diagnostic equipment and performed a gearbox learning reset, now the gear changes are barely perceptible up or down gear changes and reverse is so smooth i only know its engaged because the reverse camera comes, all in it took maybe an hour and half so well worth it, the only things replaced were the 2 o rings from the level plug and drain plug, there are no filters in these gearbox's. hopefully this will be of some help to someone........B
 
#35 ·
Hi, very interested in your experience with your ATF changes. What is the 'gearbox learning' you refer to?
In your storyline you say that Aisin recommend one should change ATF every 30k miles. Where do you get this info?
What seems clear from other experiences is that BMW change to Aisin and the transverse set-up, that I am hearing is the same in the BMW Mini, is failing in an increasingly large number of cases.
I love my car as I have many BMW's before this. I'd like to fix the thing satisfactorily rather than get rid!! BMW's attitude to what is clearly a problem is poor in the extreme. The question is how to get them to fess up and take responsibility.
Any ideas anyone out there?
 
#27 ·
There is something wrong on how BMW setup this box on their cars during 2018 (X1, X2, MINIS), they are all failing specially 2.0 gasoline, they wear out the neck of the oil pump with just a few miles in the clock. It starts with a jerk at low RPMs on 2nd or 3rd gear, delays on engaging reverse and a jerk too. The warmer the transmission is the worst it gets, eventually everything fails. In my case my local BMW said " ohh, wierd its the first case we see", you are not under warranty you will have to pay USD12.000 for a new box. I ended up "repairing" it outside for USD 3200, i will sell this car and goodbye BMW im going back to Volvo.
 
#28 ·
as these gearboxes are used in other makes i believe the real issue is the BMW policy of filled for life, it makes no sense.
i had the exact symptoms you describe which were solved with an ATF flush and fill, 2000 miles later and no issues and perfect gear changes.
A lot of service schedules are designed to entice the fleet buyers who like long simple service intervals