you get under the car and bleed them, dont your wheels come off then.

 

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BMW Dealership did Brake Fluid Service last Thurday.
The wheel nearly came off the car, 3 of the wheel nuts were missing on the rear passenger side wheel.

BMW gave an inspection report and said its almost 'Brand New' condition. They said they didnt touch the wheels but only visual inspection in the Brake Fluid service.
What's your opinion guys?

The 19" Alloys are completely damaged and require replacement.

 

Yes you can bleed without removing wheels if you have large wheels. Bleeding requires only loosening nipple.

So check bleeding if has been removed/loosened. If they have never been removed/loosened are rusty and tight to loosening.

 

What a load of rubbish a brake fluid service is replacing it and bleeding the system

 

I suppose before this maintenance all bolts were installed? If three bolts were missing they have been removed and forget to tighten or torqued them.

 

I brought the Car in August last year from Evans halshaw and brought their 3 Year warantee. they are saying it's not their fault, as how can a car run and not have an accident in 7 months of use if the wheels nuts were missing from purchase. Both of the companies not accepting any liabilities

Are there any legal advice ? thanks

 

Thank your lucky stars you are still alive and havent caused any accidents through possible garage negligence.

From personal experience(gorilla mechanic stripped ball joint to hub carrier bolts with air wrench causing wheel to collapse into bulkhead and near loss of my life when travelling some moments before on motorway at 70 mph ).
Despite detailed photographic evidence trading standards failed to prosecute.
I took out a county court claim and achieved justice.
The offending garage burnt down some time later, Karma served.
I wish you well in trying to prove responsibility for this error.

 

Wow! Yeh. We are lucky to be alive.

It feels like we pay BMW premium prices for them to kill us

 

Wether it is Possible or Not?? It is normal procedure to remove wheels as the bleed nipples are at the outside upper extremity of the calipers, and with the wheels in place it would be EXTREMELY Questionable wether it could be done correctly, .

 

As said above even if they didn’t remove the wheels which I find doubtful then they should have noticed bolts were missing. If there has been no intervention since purchase where bolts could have been left loose then it can only be them who had them off and left loose.
I’m the first instance wrote a letter to the dealer principle,if no joy file a claim online with the small claims court. Keep records of all contact and invoices etc. also make sure the brake fluid service invoice is correctly dated and has mileage documented and that you have documented proof of mileage when failure occurred so it’s clear very little distance has been travelled since they did the work

 

Thank you. It was very obvious they are trying to cover up. Because the manager and person that worked on my car is not at work. Both on anual leave. It raises the doubt. When I phoned them, they said were trying to get rid of me by give me an email address and saying manager not in.

Im not happy at all. Because the car was completely perfect before dealership and BMW didnt give any recommendations and did say only very minimal wear almost as good as new. Idiot me went away trusting they done their job properly .

 

never been to agarage yet that dont remove wheels to carry out a fkuid change,ask them for cctv

 

As said normally the wheels come off.
Don't let it drop m8 get some legal advice.
We can all say this and that but we are not all that well up on this neglect side of the law.

 

If anyone still has a copy of the TIS service procedures for doing the brake fluid you can confirm whether the documented procedure from BMW specifies removing the wheels. If it does then you have the garage by the nuts (excuse the pun). If they didn't remove the wheels then they were not following procedure.

That aside, if they were halfway competent and the nuts were already missing and it wasn't spotted then they have been negligent anyway.

 

Don't they check the car over and report any issues they find.
Took my e46 in twice on recall when i had it and both times it was given back to me with a report.
Funny thing is they said i had an oil leak from the auto-box but no one else could ever find it.

 

last time mine was in for egr cooler recall, i get an e mail with video and a report,,they always say windscreen wipers leave a streak,even though they are perfect,,twats trying to get more money when ya car is fine in all areas

 

It depends on the calipers. All mine are on the inside so it's perfectly possible to do on a lift without removing the wheels.

 

TIS shows the wheels staying on the car. I have attached a copy.

I think it is poor service if they miss the absent wheel nuts!!

 

actually ive just had a flashback,,and my wheels on my e90 stayed on,local indy,not bmw specialist..used a pressure bleeder,i remember as they couldn't get one of the nipples off,so was like nearly a full brake fluid change.all other changes ive had has been wheels off,old fashioned way ie pump pedal etc

 

We always took wheels off makes it easier to do.

 

Traditionally wheels are always removed when bleeding brakes.
I have always personally removed wheels when bleeding brakes.
I have never had access to a full car lift to do otherwise.
There is however a caveat in that if the bleed nipples have sufficient clearance to the wheel rim then if car is up on ramp it would be very easy to connect the bleed tube without wheel coming off.
The conclusion is therefore each car dependent i.e size of wheels,diameter of brake disks and calipers.
They may use this reasoning as a get out of any liability.

 

Still very strange to me.