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Could somebody please advise me on the best way to connect my ipod to the I-Drive system. I do have a CD multi changer in the glove box?
 

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Hey Jack, I'm in the same boat as you and unfortunately it is not that clear cut. A couple of points / q's:

1. Do you have an aux port in your car? May be in the glove box or the rear of the centre arm rest.
2. Have you tried an FM transmitter?
3. I've heard rumours that there is a software upgrade to allow the cd unit to play MP3 tracks but I am not sure if this is just conjecture or not!

The other things you could purchase, but it would mean losing your 6 cd changer (because these products utilise the changer interface)

a. A Gateway 500, i think it's Denison who do it, supposed to keep all your MF steering wheel controls but does not always guarantee displaying the song and album info.... around 275 for the unit itself
b. There is a Dice product going around but I really don't know much about it. Supposed to be similar to the gateway in functionality.....

If anyone has anyore info to add please feel free!

Hope that helps a little! Red :)
 

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No offense, but you'd be selling the wrong product, neither would work with an iDrive equiped vehicle, those are iBus devices.

The two options available, in addition to the one from BMW, are the Dension Gateway 500 and the mObridge. Both the Gateway 500 and mObridge should be direct replacements if you have a CD Changer already.
 

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Hey roughlad nice links man, but your still not supporting my car 5 series 2005, time and time again I find that out. Howsit goin in sunny Arbroath mate? :)

Interesting Rich P - forgive me, but you are bmw tech in a main dealer aren't you?

How come when I requested I wanted to play mp3s either via cd or my ipod they would never mention a product such as gateway!? I'm guessing knowledge and or infor varies from dealer to dealer.

So to get that Gateway unit fitted, for example, are you able to give rough estimate on price? Could you do it yourself or is it recommended to go through BMW tech specialist for reprogramming etc.

Very interesting.... Red :)
 

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Another option if you have an Aux port is one of these:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kensington-...UTF8&coliid=IA6QTL4CKU26B&colid=1GCKBEH37KRVG

It connects to your iPod using the dock connector and then to the car through the Aux socket and a ciggy socket for charging. Then there is a wireless remote for changing tracks, stopping and starting etc. Looks like it would work well if you just stick a playlist on and want to be able to skip tracks. If you want to scroll through playlists then I don't think it would work too well.

I don't own one but am thinking of buying soon, it would appear that Santa didn't get my letter.
 

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Hey Jack, I'm in the same boat as you and unfortunately it is not that clear cut. A couple of points / q's:

1. Do you have an aux port in your car? May be in the glove box or the rear of the centre arm rest.
2. Have you tried an FM transmitter?
3. I've heard rumours that there is a software upgrade to allow the cd unit to play MP3 tracks but I am not sure if this is just conjecture or not!

The other things you could purchase, but it would mean losing your 6 cd changer (because these products utilise the changer interface)

a. A Gateway 500, i think it's Denison who do it, supposed to keep all your MF steering wheel controls but does not always guarantee displaying the song and album info.... around 275 for the unit itself
b. There is a Dice product going around but I really don't know much about it. Supposed to be similar to the gateway in functionality.....

If anyone has anyore info to add please feel free!

Hope that helps a little! Red :)
I have installed the dice unit - cost me about £90 off ebay - I can only recommend it.
 

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Interesting Rich P - forgive me, but you are bmw tech in a main dealer aren't you?
Nope, I don't work in the car sector at all.

How come when I requested I wanted to play mp3s either via cd or my ipod they would never mention a product such as gateway!? I'm guessing knowledge and or infor varies from dealer to dealer.
Any dealer is unlikely to tell you about 3rd party options, esepcially if there is a BMW part that will do the job, even if it is vastly inferior.

So to get that Gateway unit fitted, for example, are you able to give rough estimate on price? Could you do it yourself or is it recommended to go through BMW tech specialist for reprogramming etc.
I've never fited a Gateway 500, but from what I understand it is a plug and play replacement for the CD Changer if fitted. If you don't have a CD Changer then the car needs to be coded for one so that the MOST bus recognises the Gateway device. Cost is about £280, I'd recomend you get one from a reliable dealer who will take returns, for example THIS as Dension devices are not known for their reliability! There are also many different software versions for the iDrive system, there is always a posibility that it won't work on your car.
 

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Hey RichardP, thanks for the info mate (and link) sorry for the confusion bud :)

The link says that particular unit is compatible with my 2005 E60 - woo hoo! But then it goes on to say this

i-Drive CCC Radio Must be MP3 compatible & CD Changer enabled


I have a few general questions (if anyone can help out):

1. What is an I-drive CCC and since when is a "radio" Mp3 compatible?
2. I already have bluetooth built in. Is it safe to assume that this will work as per normal if the Gateway 500 unit is plugged in?
3. I already have a cd changer in the glove box. So does that mean the correct adapter is supplied in the box when i purchase it? Then I'd take out the CD changer cable and plug in the gateway 500 to that interface? As simple as that or is there more to it?

I've attached a pic of my idrive if that helps with anything.....

Cheers for looking! Red :)
 

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No idea what CCC means, but to work your iDrive software needs to be able to recognise MP3 CD's in the changer. Do you know if it can? If not, try it with one! It it won't then you'll need a software update from a dealer.

Bluetooth should not be affected at all.

The Gateway 500 should connect directly to the connections for the CD Changer, remove the latter and connect the former.
 

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many thank yous Neal and Rich, will test the CD changer tonight and how do i know which version of i=drive software i am running just for info like?

So this sounds like a doddle to install? Take out the cd changer lead and plug in the new unit's lead? Or is there power to be sourced?

Basically do I need to pay a pro to install it or can a monkey work it out?

Thanks again lads! Red :)
 

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forgive me fzbucks, do you have idrive?

I want to know for sure it will work seemlessly on my 2005 e60. Red :)
No but it works with all my steering wheel controls, as far as the BMW is conerned its controlling the cd changer, the dice kit converts the cd changer controls to ipod controls

can't see why it wouldn't work with i drive.
 

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No but it works with all my steering wheel controls, as far as the BMW is conerned its controlling the cd changer, the dice kit converts the cd changer controls to ipod controls

can't see why it wouldn't work with i drive.
It won't work with iDrive, the communications method is totally different - like comparing English and Japanese.

The older cars (E46, E39, E39 etc.) use a serial communications system called iBus, the newer cars (E60, E90 etc.) use a fiber optical network called MOST.
 

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Ok phoned the parts department where i bought the car from gave him all my info etc and he phoned me back with

The audio cd unit should be MP3 compatible with cars built after March 2005, mine was built January 2005 :(

They do, however, provide a Ipod retrofit conenction that is "guaranteed" to work with track title, artist displaying correctly on the i series screen. It will also work as normal with MF steering wheel and it charges the ipod at the same time.

This kit is made by bmw only. It only works on the 4th gen models of ipod, you cannot use another mp3 player with it. And it costs 339.81 all inclusive (I;m sure he said all inclusive).

So the gateway 500 is out because I need mp3 cd compatibility.

If i want the ipod kit I cannot use the latest ipod I own, would have to buy an old one!

I cannot simpy upgrade my cd unit to a new one (there were no options on his system apart from the ipod kit).

Lordy oh lord! I think I'll just give up!

Red! :(
 

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Red,

Have you tried an mp3 6xcd chager for the boot? Although I can only comment on mine (2001 Business CD HU) or rather the investigation that was done before I chose the Dension. Also the Dension is backward compatable so you would not have the issues and its far cheaper! Possibly the same technology that the dealers will fit!

Otherwise, if all your tracks are mp3, the Dension 300/500, if works has a direct input for a usb/drive/hard drive input as well as an auxilary phono port and ipod link. And will retain the cd fuctions for the boot changer (500 only) (300 disables without an extra module)

Basically saying to drop all the mp3s onto a usb pen or external hdd. Therefore keep the cds as backup?

Alternaitve as USB pens are so cheap, have each style of music per pen and swop these when you wish different music? as you would mp3 cds/dvds? Plus storage is easier!

Have you contacted any audio specalists? as they may be able to advise an aftermarket kit.

Just a thought.....

Regards...
 
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