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Currently have a BMW 318 Touring 1999 with 109K on the clock, well looked after, looks good for its value but no fire-cracker. Have the chance of a straight swap (with friend, who's just bought a 08 330D Touring and they refused to take Golf in part-ex) of a VW Golf Mk4 V5 2002 with 114k. My car is clean but Golf is cleaner, looks and feels newer to drive (Golf steering much better than 'wandering' BeeEm). I'm loving the engine in the Golf, fantastic sound and good response (been awhile since I had a quick car) but have heard horror stories of V5's fuel economy:jaw-dropping
Car will only do around 6K a year, used as second car, anybody have any opinions/experience of V5???
 

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The early V5's were only 10v & 150bhp, from 2000ish they made them 20v & 170bhp. I had the 170bhp V5 in a 2001 Passat, and coupled with the Tiptronic box it was a slow car - the same engine, as a manual, in a lighter Golf should be better.
Fuel economy - I'd say the Passat I had was on a par with my current 330i, so about 30mpg - so maybe mid 30's in a Golf at best?

Personally I'd swap!
 

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The early V5's were only 10v & 150bhp, from 2000ish they made them 20v & 170bhp. I had the 170bhp V5 in a 2001 Passat, and coupled with the Tiptronic box it was a slow car - the same engine, as a manual, in a lighter Golf should be better.
Fuel economy - I'd say the Passat I had was on a par with my current 330i, so about 30mpg - so maybe mid 30's in a Golf at best?

Personally I'd swap!
Thanks for that Paddy2bsure, yes its the 170bhp version and quick enough for my driving, read nothing but praise for engine noise and reliability. Its economy that concerns me, some reports say its thirsty even when driven steady. Don't do many miles but I'd like to think you can eek out the miles if you drive like Miss Daisy!
318 returning 36 on average, so mid 30's sounds reasonable.
 

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The 170bhp one is a nice drive. Its basically the same engine as the VR6 with a cylinder chopped off. The down side is that they are a bugger to shift on as people either want the 1.8T or the 24 valve VR6 ones found in the 4 motions.
 

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Yeah, I'd have that 2.8 in a flash :thumbsup

Another good thing is that the V5 is a chain driven cam, not a belt - always a plus in my book :)
 

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Thanks gringog60, I've seen the 1.8T and VR6's are more sought after, because the 1.8T is more tuneable and the VR6 is, well just bigger and 4 wheel drive. But at the end of the day I'm talking banger money (£1500 - £1700 values) and I know the Golfs owner well so its a easy transaction should I decide to go ahead. At the moment its reminding me of years ago driving round in golf and pug GTI's - great fun! but will that wear off and will I start missing the class of the BeeEm:confused
 

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once a beemer - always a beemer mate

other cars are okay for a while - but you'll start missing that roundel !!!!
 

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I had the Toledo V5 which is basically the same thing, and I could get 45mpg if I was driving carefully, and it surprised alot of other cars off the line, but I'd never get another VW derived machine. Bad things to consider on those Golfs (and this comes from my local VW specialist too) are that the front windows will break almost garunteed, as the plastic components inside are very brittle and dont age well. The units have to be replaced as a whole - (cost me £200 per side), the engine sits very low, the sump is piss thin and breaks on anything more than a twig on the road (I went through two of these going over modest speed bumps pretty slowly!! Cost me £250 each! The dist block and altenator are garunteed to go at about 80-90k and they are about £200 each to sort, anti-roll bar bushes go for a pass time - parts for these machines are ludicrously priced, I thought I was buying a good one with 70k on the clock FSH, drove lovely etc. etc. and I thought VW's were supposed to be reliable. Bollocks.

It's probably just my luck however, and your car will give you years of driving pleasure. Should have bought a beemer sooner.
 

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45mpg that sounds good - I know what you mean regarding window regs, low sump and arb bushes, wife had a Bora for ten years, so some of problems familiar. I have to decide soon, BeeEm for sale outside now getting good interest. But I have to admit keep taking Golf out for spin just for fun of it (hav'nt done that in my car for a long time). I had an Audi 90 2.2 5cyl a long time ago - loved the off beat sound of that engine too:thumbsup
 

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personnelly id be wondering what was up with the bmw, ive driven a few mk4 golf and frankley found them to be utterly p8ss poor, by far vw's lowest moment, i had a realative who used to work for vw and occasionaly would bring demonstraters round, then used to follow come and have a go in this you wont beleive how bad it is, if you want rid of the bm for christsakes go and test drive a low millage mk1 focus and come back and tell us what you think of the golf then, if you can stretch buy the mk5 it was a massive improvement
 
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