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Hi all, has anyone ever changed their turbo for something not exactly the same, i.e. fitted a turbo from a 525d or even from another manufacturer (merc / audi)?

My turbo has gone bye bye and I'm having trouble finding one at a reasonable price, (i've posted a wanted ad in the classified section of this site, but I imagine few of the members look there), whereas I see ones for other cars kicking about at good prices.

I'm aware mine is a VNT, but so are a lot of the VAG and Merc ones (I am led to believe even some of the sprinter engines are VNT, and apparently some of the VW / Seat brigade use them to boost the output of their Golfs / Leon / Etc.

I'm not bothered about extra power, or even less power, I just need my car back up and running cheap, as I've been, to all intents and purposes, unemployed for the past 3 months :eek:(

Cheers in advance,

Mac.
 

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The BMW unit has a custom exhaust flange, so no, you cant use VAG/merc unit. Get in touch with a Garrett distributor and get the item from them new, don't waste money on a refurbished item, for a myriad of reasons. Garrett part number 454191-0015 is the newest release.
 

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don't waste money on a refurbished item, for a myriad of reasons. Garrett part number 454191-0015 is the newest release.
:thumbsup No probs, I'll do that as soon as my next unemployment cheque clears :rofl:rofl:rofl

However, thanks for the info about the exhaust flange :thumbsup
 

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Or does anyone have any ideas where to find a direct replacement at a reasonable price? As previously mentioned, not working at the moment so money is very tight, and the cheapest I have seen them is £400 for a second hand one on ebay! :O(
 

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The one in the pic looks like the E60 one, and you will need some other parts as well as a remap for it to work properly.

themac1977, sorry about your unemployment issue, hope there is some light at the end of the tunnel.

What exactly is wrong with your turbo? How mechanically inclined are you? If the impellers have not touched the casing, it should be possible to rebuild it, if you have the right guidance. Here in SA, the parts distributor offers a rebuild service, costing about 130pounds. But then the rest of the turbo has to be good. And you do run some risks, so rebuilding would not be my first choice, because of the labor involved in removing and refitting the turbo.

Off course, if you can remove and refit the turbo yourself, you will save a lot in labor. And if you can do that, you can most likely rebuild the thing yourself, as long as you do not touch the VNT+actuator assembly.
 

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The one in the pic looks like the E60 one, and you will need some other parts as well as a remap for it to work properly.

themac1977, sorry about your unemployment issue, hope there is some light at the end of the tunnel.

What exactly is wrong with your turbo? How mechanically inclined are you? If the impellers have not touched the casing, it should be possible to rebuild it, if you have the right guidance. Here in SA, the parts distributor offers a rebuild service, costing about 130pounds. But then the rest of the turbo has to be good. And you do run some risks, so rebuilding would not be my first choice, because of the labor involved in removing and refitting the turbo.

Off course, if you can remove and refit the turbo yourself, you will save a lot in labor. And if you can do that, you can most likely rebuild the thing yourself, as long as you do not touch the VNT+actuator assembly.
306d1 refers to the early engine does it not? It is not that clear but it says this much in the text on the ad.
 

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I have never heard "306d1" designation before, but that turbo in the picture does not look like an LCI 530d turbo to me. EDIT: I hope it is the wrong pic, because that thing will not fir into any BMW diesel engine bay that I have seen. (the turbo intake would be facing the rear of the car, the angles are wrong, the exh manifold bolts are in the wrong place. etc.)
 

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I have never heard "306d1" designation before, but that turbo in the picture does not look like an LCI 530d turbo to me. EDIT: I hope it is the wrong pic, because that thing will not fir into any BMW diesel engine bay that I have seen. (the turbo intake would be facing the rear of the car, the angles are wrong, the exh manifold bolts are in the wrong place. etc.)
:hihi it isn't bolted onto the manifold in the picture which is why it looks so wrong! It is also upside down compared to as it is fitted in the car. I dont think the seller is helping himself much by the way he has pictured it! :)

This shows another auction of his and is no doubt what the turbo came off http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BMW-330d-3-0-TURBO-DIESEL-ENGINE-306D1-/140500904246?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item20b681a936
 

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The picture is just a generic BMW turbo, it says further down the ad that you need to specify what part numbers you are looking for.

Mine is the 306D1 which is the 1999 - 2003 version of this engine in the E39.

For some reason the 306D1 used in anything apart from the E39 uses a different part number for the turbo :eek:( So according to the part numbers, the 330d one is different. I've even found out that the part numbers are different between the Auto and manual! :eek:(

Not frickin happy Mr BMW!!!!

It's the oil seals that have gone in the turbo, there is very very little play in the shaft (i.e. it is that small an amount of play that I could barely tell it was moving at all).

Getting the turbo out is the difficult part, I know how to do it, as had a fair bit of mechanical experience (swapping engines, gearboxes, diffs, etc) but no longer have anywhere to do it, and my tool "collection" isnt what it used to be.
 

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Since you have the time, and you have internet, search for rebuild guides, and do it. Remember the turbo goes out the bottom if you like your car. If you want to buy new injectors and a plethora of other stuff, take it out the top like most idiot mechanics.

http://tis.spaghetticoder.org/s/view.pl?1/04/94/89

Make sure that all the breathers and oil feed/return lines are good. And when it is back in the car, (after you have primed it properly before first start) drive around the block, and check charge pipes for excess oil, then drive 6 miles and check again to make sure it is not an overpressure condition that killed the previous turbo.
 

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turbo replaced

Just a bit of extra info.
I managed to get a new garrett one fitted for a grand. inc labour at a local diesel specialists. BMW specialist 2K for the same. I could not get a new turbo forless than £700 anywhere.
Car had full BMW service history but they never changed the filter on the top of the turbo that recirculates the gases from the engine.
 

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Car had full BMW service history but they never changed the filter on the top of the turbo that recirculates the gases from the engine.
Goes to show FSH can mean bugger all :mad
Thats why its so important to check and change the oil separator, this item wasn't deemed to be a service item until (iirc) 2006
but by then probably most affected vehicles will have been removed from dealer servicing and subsequently never had the separator changed :irked

No help to you though gg1964 :frown, btw have you had the plastic vortex oil separator fitted or the foam loo roll design?
 
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