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Hi,

I'm going to look at a 1995 M3 tomorrow with 80k on the clock, it has service history and what not and a new MOT, just wondering if anyone can suggest what I should look out for please?

My main concerns are brake pipes, gearbox and clutch but does anyone know anything else I should look out for? Hasn't had many owners, think 2 max so its' not been abused, looks the nuts in purple as well and it's going for a good price.

Any help would be great
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Mark
 

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If it has an SMG gear box, I would keep clear of it. My friend Slacker-ray will explain why when he reads this post :thumbsup
 

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It has a 5 speed manual gearbox, which I've told providing it's not had a hard life are pretty much solid??
 

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It has a 5 speed manual gearbox, which I've told providing it's not had a hard life are pretty much solid??
if its a 1995 model then I take it its the 3.0.

These are pretty much bullet-proof engine and the vanos' are pretty much trouble free compared with the 3.2's.

Service history is a must, I would also recomend you do a HPI on it.........you'll be surprised how many M3's have been wrapped around a lamp post- Check the shut lines on doors, boot and the bonnet, make sure all looks right and straight- just because nothing shows up on a HPI doesn't mean its not been hit.

The gearbox's on these are pretty much solid aswell......but you may get kind of a rattle or chatter when switching the car off........don't be alarmed, this does'nt mean that its buggered, this is just one of the cars characteristics I'm afraid.......but if you hold the clutch in and then turn the car off- you wont hear it...........its normal.

just listen out for the usual knocking noises from the rear when driving and engaging gears.........the engine should sound smooth and not tappety- if it does then ask the owner if he/she knew when the valve clearances were checked/adjusted last.......if they dont know then you could be looking at around 200-250 squids to get that done........that will quieten the engine down.

Look for any excess vanos noise- "growl".........its ok to get a certain weird growl from the engine upon startup for a second or two- thats just the vanos unit..thats normal...don't worry about it but if the noise persists and is intermitant while you are driving then you have a problem and Vanos' are not cheap..........but again, not come across 3.0 vanos failures to be honest.

If yours a coupe then they are prone to ECU damage in the way of water getting down into the DME and VNC compartment in the bulk head.

.........that's it really as far as the 3.0's go...........then of couse the obvious like make sure the car doesn't go over the halfway mark on the temp gauge.......they always stay smack in the middle........always check the car from cold.....old beemers have issues when cold-if its been warmed up then be suspicious but don't wack the owner over the head....it may be their daily driver.

Also may be worth checking when the O2 sensors and cat was changed if at all depending on the milage- if the cats been changed then make sure it was with a genuine part......if it was aftermarket then be warned- those are totally crap, never fit right, sound awful, they have smaller cats and piping on them and will strangle some horses from the car......and the dam things sit too low so you'll forever be having trouble with speed bumps and ramps.
 

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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dARbnf36Z3s

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qndgvkmQY9g

If it sounds like this one walk away!!!
bought off ebay last summer,everything was ok,60 miles from home started to make that noise and would start lacking power,never knew when it would be M3 or 316,sometimes could be hairy on roundabouts lol.
its still out side waiting for me to do something with it,it got much worse on a drive locally
 

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Thanks guys that's a massive help to me, will be looking out for those bits and bobs, it looks straight but you never know till you go have a look so will let you all know how it goes later on today.

Thanks again
 

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Hi,

I went and had a look at the car yesterday, I looked out for all the things said on here and to be honest it was a solid car for the age but there were a couple of things which in the end put me off. The car doesn't have a full service history, it has the booked stamped up to 49k (it's on 83k now) and it doesn't have any old MOTs to go with the car. Looking at the car there were no rattles no knocks nothing, engine sounded good and body work was good. I know the garage has had the car for around 6 months or so and some one looked at the car before me, they arranged the p/x, went for a test drive but then the person changed their mind. I took it out for a test drive and it was fine, picked up well and was firm a good solid car. But with no history and no old MOT's I was a little concerned. It also needed a service as it only had 1 green light on, and the key fob didn't work and only had one key. The back box outer casing had holes and was rusting up so that would have to be changed before MOT (due in Nov 09).

I know the garage had the car up for just under £5k in the summer but has put it down to £3495 so that's why I went and had a look, but due to the lack of history, no old MOT's it needing a service and new back box not to mention that the garage said it needed new rear bushes soon I offered the garage £3k cash, thinking that at that price it would be a good punt being it's a rare 4 door M3, rare purple colour and the interior was in very good condition. But they said no and wouldn't take less then £3400 for it so I walked away.
 

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Very wise. It amazes me how such cars have no history, all specialist cars should always come with a wealth of history and bills.

As BMWs (amongst many other cars) are notoriously easy to clock, I always refuse any car with a lack of history as it could well have been, if not most probably clocked.

I would say, for £3K ish keep looking, especially at private adverts.
 

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Yeah that was the problem, if it had all the old MOT's then I might of got it for £3.4 he was asking but as he didn't have any old MOT's and no service history then £3k would of been a good bet but he wasn't having any of it and said £3.4k is the lowest he will go. Personally I don't think it is worth that in that state.

So I will keep looking, think I will go for a 328i sport or a 323/328i convertible
 
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