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    Hi,

    Can I just use DIS as a troubleshooting manual? This means I want to select a fault code and have access to what procedures shoud I follow to diagnose the fault. Or do I have always to connect to the car and have a fault on that same car?
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsam19 View Post
    By jove I think I've got it!!

    Now how can I corporate TIS v12 2007 to work with Easy DIS, or is TIS v12 just for DIS v57?

    Does Easy DIS v44 already have TIS installed/embedded into it?

    Where can I find the ECU coding profiles to possibly 'flash the ECU' at a later date?

    Overall I suppose the principles of installing easy DIS v44 would be the same for installing v39 or v57??

    I have SSS v32 on a workstation image, again could I use this with v44, or is SSS a separate program??


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    EasyDIS doesn't have TIS in it, I did make a post on bf.com about it, you need to mount the TIS .ISO in the daemon tools, start DIS, and you'll see it listed in the admin options in the CD tray.
    Just click install and wait for a looooooong time.
    You can put TIS on windows which is quicker to load up.

    You will see some coding stuff in CIP from the main screen, but SSS (a different virtual machine, not rated to DIS) is the more current one.
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by pahlok View Post
    Hi,

    Can I just use DIS as a troubleshooting manual? This means I want to select a fault code and have access to what procedures shoud I follow to diagnose the fault. Or do I have always to connect to the car and have a fault on that same car?
    DIS does do fault finding plans, but it needs to be connected to the car, find the fauls, then give you options to follow.
     
     

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    On completion of installing successfully, the DIS main user interface has partial German instructions instead of Full English?

    I chose the correct language from the set up menu - English UK


    I notice that when I was setting up DIS, there was an option for BMW, MINI & ROLLS ROYCE.

    Are the MINI & ROLLS ROYCE diagnostics included on the Easy DIS v44 disc too?


    If I wanted to install either 2 I would have to do a separate install?

    I've seen the option for TIS to be installed via the DIS menu, I will try it.

    I'm not sure how to install TIS into windows though so it would work?


    When everything is setup correctly, how do I configure the 'diagnostic head'?

    In my example, the ADS interface, or will it automatically be recognized when its connected in the car 20 pin socket?


    For coding, is CIP or SSS better ?

    Are the coding profiles already embedded in the CIP or SSS progman?


    When coding is it possible to make a back up copy of any image stored on your ECU before flashing?


    If Easy DIS v44 is much preferred and easier to use by most BMW owners who do there own diagnostics fault rectifications, why is there a v57 & possibly more versions to come in the future??


    What is the real difference between the 2 versions?


    Can you do more with one or the other?



    Thanks again for all your advice & help
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsam19 View Post

    1 Are the MINI & ROLLS ROYCE diagnostics included on the Easy DIS v44 disc too?


    2 If I wanted to install either 2 I would have to do a separate install?

    I've seen the option for TIS to be installed via the DIS menu, I will try it.

    3 I'm not sure how to install TIS into windows though so it would work?


    4 When everything is setup correctly, how do I configure the 'diagnostic head'?
    In my example, the ADS interface, or will it automatically be recognized when its connected in the car 20 pin socket?


    5 For coding, is CIP or SSS better ?

    6 Are the coding profiles already embedded in the CIP or SSS progman?


    7 When coding is it possible to make a back up copy of any image stored on your ECU before flashing?


    8 If Easy DIS v44 is much preferred and easier to use by most BMW owners who do there own diagnostics fault rectifications, why is there a v57 & possibly more versions to come in the future??
    What is the real difference between the 2 versions?
    Can you do more with one or the other?



    Thanks again for all your advice & help

    1- Don't think so, but you can try it, RR needs a dealer code or something maybe
    2- try a different install and see what happens
    3- For TIS in Windows, run something like BMW95 or Sysadm, they make an installer, and that will then have an admin program where you can just follow instructions to install TIS
    4- It should be set up, some people say don't use the diaghead emulator.
    You should get an admin option to select a diag head, (you'll see it with your laptop name) and click Connecting or testing.
    Not UPDATE anyway.
    It might say the name is already used, click ignore and it's ready to go.

    5- SSS

    6- The info is already in there

    7- Nope, you get one option to upgrade, and no way back. I'd stay away from updates etc, It's unlikely you'll notice anything, and there isn't any product support

    8- People always go for the biggest numbers, it will include more newer cars but doesn't have half of the features for the "cooked" easyDIS version
     
     

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    Yes I see.

    So what is the point then of CIP or SSS if flashing the ECU is not really recommended due to the unlikely hood of seeing any performance change & no going back to an earlier update?

    Are there other things on the car besides the ECU you can recode or code?

    What about NCS coding along with Inpa & Ediabas, are these just the same sort of programs as DIS & SSS, if not better?

    Finally, how can I change the part German user information language to full English when DIS has fully booted up?


    I presume a full re-install from scratch?


    Thanks and a Happy New Year!!
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsam19 View Post
    Yes I see.

    1- So what is the point then of CIP or SSS if flashing the ECU is not really recommended due to the unlikely hood of seeing any performance change & no going back to an earlier update?

    2- Are there other things on the car besides the ECU you can recode or code?

    3- What about NCS coding along with Inpa & Ediabas, are these just the same sort of programs as DIS & SSS, if not better?

    4- Finally, how can I change the part German user information language to full English when DIS has fully booted up?


    I presume a full re-install from scratch?


    Thanks and a Happy New Year!!
    1- It's meant for BMW! It's not a toy! They will do software updates if there is a specific problem that is being experienced, or a replacement control module, but the slight chance of it not working or failing means you'll be stuck with a brain dead car. It won't work on a '95 325tds though, it's not a flash programmable ECU.

    b- yes- you can set locking options, key memory, etc, although you might find there isn't much to change / access on your car.

    iii- NCS coding can change even more codes that even the BMW mechanics aren't trusted with. A few months ago someone fiddled with their M3 ecu and bricked it. If DIS "isn't a toy", NCS expert is the next level of trouble.

    four - Probably go back through the install and check everything
     
     

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    If I wanted to buy a 'toy' I'd go to toysrus!!

    My motto is 'If it aint broken.......'


    I merely want to know what I'm dealing with software & functionality wise & the level of usability on my car, being an older model of BMW, I appreciate there are a lot of limitations.

    The prospect of potentially bricking my car through messing around with programs that aren't reliable or trouble, doesn't interest me.

    NCS sounds great, but to only those who (if any) know what there doing!

    As for any other coding/recoding with CIP or SSS, again only for those who know what there doing.

    I think I will just stick to basic diagnostics thanks.
     
     

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    That is more likely all you will be able to do, but you will be able to set things like alarm chirps on lock and lock, autolocking after 5mph, set follow-me-home lights time limits on later cars.
    The diagnostics can be good as it operates as guided fault finding, once there is a fault, it can suggest what to check next etc.
     
     

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