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    I bought the car about 3 months ago. It is apparent that the previous owner had a Car phone or Satnav connected as there is a "scotchlok" in the wiring. Otherwise all wiring continuity checks out O.K. and the fuse (F30) is also O.K. The problem seems to be that there is no feed ONTO the fuse.(meter shows about 0.15v). The lack of this is a pain as I can't use my phone charger or my boot space coolbox (warm beer!). Any body any ideas about checking through the feed to the fuse??
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    How about the lighter under the arm rest? Do you have one because it is linked to the one in the front console. If you do, then check to see if this is working.
     
     

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    If there is no voltage at the fuse F30 then the power to the fuse is from relay I01069 which is in the same junction box as the fuse.
     
     

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    Yep
    usually the fuses blow
     
     

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    NealP. Thanks, the E91 models don't have a lighter socket in the front consol. There is one under the arm rest and a power take-off in the luggage compartment. Both are on the same circuit, neither are working.
    Gidersol. Thanks to you also.How do you identify this relay? The only relays fitted to the fuse block are 1 for rear wipe, 1 for front wipe, 1 for heated rear window and another described on the fuse box ident card as "K1. 30g" (whatever that is!). There are spaces for a front lamp washer relay and for what looks like an engine relay but neither are fitted (mine is an ES model). StratMan.
     
     

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    See if this is there
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    Many thanks Gildersol. No, there is only a slotted space where I01069 is shown. (The "K1.30g" relay I referred to is the one directly beneath the missing one). It may all be due to my 320D being the lowly ES version?
    P.S. where do you get access to these location "photos"? My Internet free downloaded version of spaghetticoder won't allow access by the component location links.
    P.P.S. After much fiddling, I've found that the cicuit works ONLY when the engine is actually running! So if you wish to use the power take-off for a tyre inflator, you have to run the engine. How very economic - Teutonic logic!!
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratman View Post
    P.S. where do you get access to these location "photos"? My Internet free downloaded version of spaghetticoder won't allow access by the component location links.
    You using Internet Explorer 7?

    IE8 wouldn't work for me with it.

    And have you got Java and Adobe SVG downloaded?
     
     

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    I've pm'd a link
     
     

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    Thanks Ronnie. We've "spoken" about this before. Yes I use IE7, yes I have Java and the (now non Adobe supported)SVG viewer. But they still wouldn't connect the links. The revised link from Gildersol has now sorted.
    Back to my original problem, do you know if it is correct for the Cigar lighter/ auxilliary power take-offs to only work when the engine is running? (Mine is a 320D ES E91 model)No reference to this in the laughable operators manual!
     
     

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