OK, i checked the codes and none were stored. I checked the key and it was recognised, but that said, of course at this time it is recognised because the car starts every time. I will have to check it when i get a repeat of the problem when the engine doesnt turn. The clutch switch thing, does that apply to even manual cars or is it just automatics? I cant say i have ever purposely stepped on the clutch before starting the car but maybe i do automatically !