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  1. 1999 E36 328i Automatic Cruise Control retrofit 
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    Hi all...

    Just spent some time building up wiring looms and installing Cruise Control into my E36 328i M-Sport Vert.

    All the parts used to come out of an M3 (with SMG) , but I have no idea if they worked or not in the Donor car. I do have the correct 328i Bowden cable hooked up.

    Anyways I have checked and double checked the loom connections, and done the install very methodically, with soldered connections, using the Bentley Manual & BMW circuit schematics also.

    1st test drive - Cruise would not engage :-( although when i turned on the ignition there was some activity/noise from the actuator.

    Before I start sourcing an alternative Cruise Control Module & Actuator would the Cruise Control Module I have require "coding" as its now in a 328i automatic rather than an SMG M3 and come to think of it would the Automatic Transmission Control Module also require coding with respect to the fact that a Cruise Control Module is now present.

    Any advice appreciated.
     
     

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    According to Online ETK it is the same unit on all cars across the range, however it does show it as uncoded which means it has to be set to the particular engine/gearbox combination.
     
     

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    Thanks to what Billywhizz1984 stated it got me thinking....so "Just noticed" on reviewing the BMW Schematics that when an SMG or Automatic Gearbox is fitted Pin 2 of the Cruise Control Module should be taken to Chassis earth/Ground. Mine is floating/not connected as I applied too much intelligence cos as my car is Automatic it does not have a clutch fitted ! DOH !

    Hey ho...will let you know what happens :-)
     
     

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    Hey it worked.........and it works really well........very smooth in operation....all fixed by me grounding Pin 2 of the Cuise Control Module for my 328i Automatic :-))

    Think I will generate a complete retrofit guide for the wiring form an E36 automatic.......
     
     

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    I just got my self cruise control kit came out from E36 m3, look forward for your complete retrofit guide...
     
     

  9. 1999 E36 328i Automatic Cruise Control retrofit 
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    Hi pal wer did you get your guide from? I really want to do this mod myself
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    click hear for extreme bbw punishment......
     
     

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    Thankfully, my 328isport auto, had cruise control fitted as an option when new. Used it a few times, and it works well, although imo, not aswell as it did on my e46 330 vert.
     
     

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    Well, there is a good write up here :

    http://www.scarolas.com/98e36m3/BMW%...%20DIY_v.2.pdf

    Which I read up on....

    I also checked out the circuit diagrams in the Bentley Manual and also the Proper BMW circuit schematics you can find on the net. (For info the Bentley manual has, incorrectly, actuator Pins 2 & 3 swapped)


    The big problem you will face is not being able to buy the Cruise Control loom from BMW any more, so you will have to make one up...using the car side wiring that you can salvage from the donor car.....I soldered all my wires and used heat shrink on the joints.

    There are about 22 wires that need hooking up.....

    7 from the actuator
    5 from Steering column control switch
    2 from brake switch (one being the main +12V)
    1 from behind instruments (added this extra wire during my 18 button OBC upgrade)
    2 from OBC (18 button)
    3 wires to Chassis earth. (in a manual one of these wires will go to a clutch switch)
    2 wires from X69 under the bonnet for teh Auto Gearbox signals (I am assuming are not required in a manual car)

    I know this all sounds a bit complicated, but if you take your time and make the 2 looms up off the car its a whole lot easier. The entire job took me about 8 hours solid, cos I was very slow & methodical....when I say 2 looms, there is the loom from under the bonnet/hood Actuator & X69 Connector (plus the outside temp sensor if you are also doing the 18 Button OBC upgrade), and another loom from the Brake switch, dashboard instruments, Steering column, and 18 button OBC signals... doing it in 2 wiring looms means that you can spread the install over a couple of weekends....especially if you have to use the car the next day for going to work...I also got a decent amount of spare wire, earth points, etc from a scrap e36....made life a bit easier for earth bonding points etc.
     
     

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    Does anyone know anything more about this coding malarky?

    I've wired in cruise that I got from a manual 328i (took out everything needed from the working car which had it as a factory fitted option, not a dealer fit.) and installed it to my 325i.
    We've wired it in so it can seen by diagnostics and that shows the stalk and pedals work as they shoul (diag screen says 'activated' or 'not activated') but it still doesn't work.
    http://www.bimmerforums.co.uk/forum/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=25535&dateline=129538  0035
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sphinx View Post
    Does anyone know anything more about this coding malarky?
    I wouldn't look too deep into that, as the ZKE module on RealOEM also says "uncoded", but it doesn't have to be matched with the car !

    I doubt the cruise control would have to be matched either ! (Apart adding that pin to the clutch pedal, or grounding it if it's an Auto)
     
     

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