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  1. 1997 E36 323i highbeam failure 
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    hi.
    driving home this evening there was a pause between flicking onto highbeam from dip. this happened a couple more times before they totally failed. i still have sides and dip beam. the full beam light on the dash illuminates fine. tried jiggling the stork but nothing happens. i dont think its the fuses as i believe they have one per side (correct me if i'm wrong).
    i dont think its the switch either as the dash light is on and it did work for a brief time, so im thinking its a relay. does anyone know where these are located (i dont have a manual to refer to) and what relay i need?

    or has anyone experienced something similar?

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    Check the earthing point behind the headlight. I had some very bizarre symptoms on my lights after I had installed the 328 loom and it turned out to be the earthing point on the Nearside of the engine bay between the front strut and the headlight. If this is fine then also check where the wires join an earthing block which is positioned almost directly behind the front indicator
     
     

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    In case it's the relay, it should be in the fusebox in the engine compartment.
    Here's a diagram, but the positions can be different on some cars
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    cheers gents,
    as it happens i have been 'fiddling' with the indicators as i have changed them twice in the last few weeks. it is just possible this weekend i have dislodged something. (have to say the genuine BMW white indicators i put in look incredible)
    i'll check the earth points and the relay in the morning...if i have time!!
    thanks again
     
     

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    ok so im pretty sure its the relay so ive been trying to source the correct replacement. the diagram kindly provided by gildersol is great by as mantioned is slightly different from mine. i dont have ac so i can eliminate that bank of three. i know the indicator relay is in the same place so ithink the dark blue relay to the left named high beam should be the same....any thoughts???
     
     

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    I no longer have an E36 so I can't check, but if you look at what the functions the other relays do and operate those functions and check if the relay for that function clicks, then it's a process of elimination (and you can write them down for future reference)

    If you have a multimeter or testlamp you could unplug the relay and check for voltage at pins 85 & 86 when the main beam is on (some models have a different type of relay so the pins may be different).
     
     

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    i dont have those lamps but thanks for the tip...

    interestingly enough i have been speaking to two seperate dealerships regarding this issue. niether have any info as to what relay does what, only a colour reference, but even this aparently doesnt tell them what the relay does! bizaar, and as they generally update the relays they dont keep a record of the part number, i gave him the part number of my flasher relay and he didnt have a reference for it..it was only when i operated my alarm and the hazards didnt flash i knew which relay i had.
    i suggested i take each relay out as a process of elimination and he was adamant that under no circumstance should i do this as the relays have a tendency to reset when removed and this could cause major problems if i removed the engine management relay!!
    he did however offer to sell me a headlamp control module at £130+vat....
    i found it suprising that BMW themselves don't know which relay does what...i asked what colour the high beam relay is and he didnt know! they are looking into it and calling me tomorrow....fingers crossed
     
     

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    The guy was a tosser. Relays have a tendency to reset

    The engine management relay is under the small black cover in the fusebox. The relays for the other stuff can be removed ok.
     
     

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    cool then i'll plumb for dark blue tomorrow and see what occurs!
    cheers i'll let you know what happens
     
     

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