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    The key-spinning-in-barrel problem is back... with a vengeance!

    The car started fine, I overcame the problem at that point as I always do, but when I pulled up, I turned the key to switch it off and the barrel started spinning... with the engine running!

    I span it back round towards where it should be, but it just kept spinning and not disengaging.

    Eventually, I managed to pull the key free... but the engine kept running!

    I stalled it, but then the ignition was still on, so I've had to disconnect the battery. I cant' seem to get it back to the correct position though.

    Is there a way to do this without just joining an autoclub and calling them in?

    Many thanks for any help.
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    It's bust, simple as that, there is a tab that breaks, and once broken, means the lock will spin and spin.

    You'll need to go to BMW and order in a new ignition barrel.
     
     

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    Check out youtube for spinning bArrel... you drill through the barrel and put a screw in...
     
     

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    Take the switch off the back of the ignition barrel and use a trusty screwdriver on the switch until you have a new replacement
     
     

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    Oh, but make sure you have the key in the barrel still in order to disable the EWS system
     
     

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    The only problem with these are when the barrel has locked and wont move, IIRC you cannot get the barrel out as it needs to be in position 2 to insert a 3mm pin to get the barrel out.
    Last one I did, ended up having to have a new steering lock as well....


    As rym said, you remove the cowling and at the back where the switch attaches to the lock, there are 2 small flat headed screws. They are covered in a red wax which can be scraped away. Then you can start and stop the car with a flat bladed screwdriver....
    Key must be in the ignition for the ews to read the chip though...
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    That video says you need the key to be in position 2, but my barrel is stuck in position 3 without the key in it.

    How can I get the barrel out when this is the case?

    I don't want to make a bad situation worse by starting to dismantle the column, take the gromit off, etc., only to find out I can't get the barrel out.

    What the hell can I do if the ignition is stuck in position 3?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post
    That video says you need the key to be in position 2, but my barrel is stuck in position 3 without the key in it.

    Will I still be able to get the barrel out when this is the case?

    I don't want to make a bad situation worse by starting to dismantle the column, take the gromit off, etc., only to find out I can't get the barrel out.
    Thats the problem I had with the customers car, ended up having to break the steering lock off and replacing the column bush, stering lock, and ignition barrel. Because the lock is stuck in postion you cant turn it to get the barrel in the release position....

    How are you starting it and stopping it at the moment Gordon?
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve23002 View Post
    Thats the problem I had with the customers car, ended up having to break the steering lock off and replacing the column bush, stering lock, and ignition barrel. Because the lock is stuck in postion you cant turn it to get the barrel in the release position....

    How are you starting it and stopping it at the moment Gordon?
    I'm not, Steve, I haven't used it in over a week. I've been borrowing my missus' car where possible.

    Because it's stuck in ignition 'on' position, I've disconnected the battery to prevent it from draining it. It would be far too much arseache to have to connect and disconnect it every time I wanted to use it.

    So, in your opinion, is it knackered beyond repair then? I'm not bothered about replacing the steering lock, but do you reckon I'm looking at a new barrel and bush for sure? Will that require a new key, etc.? How does that work?

    And, of course, roughly how much am I looking at?

    Thanks for your help, Steve.
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