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    Hi I have been looking into getting a remote central locking system and after advice on here went with this oneh
    ttp://www.rclick.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=50&products_id=673

    It has been dispatched but now I am worried about the fitting of it as in the instructions it states the following

    To disable the factory immobiliser a replacement ring antenna/transponder reader from BMW is required and a spare ignition key. The part number for the ring antenna is 61 36 8 364 710 or 71 36 8 364 709.

    2 methods are available:

    Bypass immobiliser at all times, secure a spare key to the new ring antenna making sure the key is as central as possible in the ring. Unplug the existing antenna and plug new one in it's place and hide under dash, you may also want to cut the key shaft so of found by a theif it can not be used.

    Bypass immobiliser only through remote start:
    Wire the new antenna through a SPCO relay and secure a spare key to it making sure the key is as central as possible in the ring. Hide the new antenna under the dash and at least 18 inches away from the original antenna to prevent them clashing. you may also want to cut the key shaft so of found by a thief it can not be used.

    What I would like to know is has anyone fitted one of these systems? If not does this make sense and will I have to order a new ring antenna or can I get one from the scrap yard? I already have a spare key that I can use.

    All help needed as this is coming soon. Cheers
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by newbbie View Post
    Hi I have been looking into getting a remote central locking system and after advice on here went with this oneh
    ttp://www.rclick.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=50&products_id=673

    It has been dispatched but now I am worried about the fitting of it as in the instructions it states the following

    To disable the factory immobiliser a replacement ring antenna/transponder reader from BMW is required and a spare ignition key. The part number for the ring antenna is 61 36 8 364 710 or 71 36 8 364 709.

    2 methods are available:

    Bypass immobiliser at all times, secure a spare key to the new ring antenna making sure the key is as central as possible in the ring. Unplug the existing antenna and plug new one in it's place and hide under dash, you may also want to cut the key shaft so of found by a theif it can not be used.

    Bypass immobiliser only through remote start:
    Wire the new antenna through a SPCO relay and secure a spare key to it making sure the key is as central as possible in the ring. Hide the new antenna under the dash and at least 18 inches away from the original antenna to prevent them clashing. you may also want to cut the key shaft so of found by a thief it can not be used.

    What I would like to know is has anyone fitted one of these systems? If not does this make sense and will I have to order a new ring antenna or can I get one from the scrap yard? I already have a spare key that I can use.

    All help needed as this is coming soon. Cheers
    sounds like a complete bodge to me.. in essence you're bypassing the built in immobiliser.. if someone gets into your car (which lets face it isn't that hard these days) then it won't take them much effort to get it started.. (i.e. no fuel pump cut off and no starter motor cut off)

    you normally get what you pay for - i wouldn't bother changing it unless it was for a decent CAT 1 alarm and immobiliser (i.e. Toad Ai606 or Clifford G5 650 MKII etc)..

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    Going back to your previous post...

    1995 E36 316i saloon Car won't start!

    I think you've misunderstood how the immobiliser works or I'm not understanding how you want to use this system.

    You are buying a remote locking kit that comes with "flip" fobs and uncut key blanks. To make this work with your current immobiliser (EWS II) you split the key open, remove the chip, and place it inside your new fob. When you insert the key in the ignition the induction ring picks up the chip, disables the EWS and allows the car to start. You only need to bypass EWS if you plan on setting up remote starting which doesn't come as part of the system you have identified.

    Have a look here....

    http://www.bimmerforums.co.uk/forum/...y-guide-t9795/
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangster View Post
    sounds like a complete bodge to me.. in essence you're bypassing the built in immobiliser.. if someone gets into your car (which lets face it isn't that hard these days) then it won't take them much effort to get it started..
    Plus its illegal to leave a car running without a driver

    Remote start is rubbish, wastes fuel, cokes engine, makes easier to steal. I had one in my other cars. Wouldn't bother with them again way too many theifs about
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by billywhizz1984 View Post
    Going back to your previous post...

    1995 E36 316i saloon Car won't start!

    I think you've misunderstood how the immobiliser works or I'm not understanding how you want to use this system.

    You are buying a remote locking kit that comes with "flip" fobs and uncut key blanks. To make this work with your current immobiliser (EWS II) you split the key open, remove the chip, and place it inside your new fob. When you insert the key in the ignition the induction ring picks up the chip, disables the EWS and allows the car to start. You only need to bypass EWS if you plan on setting up remote starting which doesn't come as part of the system you have identified.

    Have a look here....

    http://www.bimmerforums.co.uk/forum/...y-guide-t9795/
    /\ ahh! - that makes sense now!!.. the way the OP had written it - he was going to fit this kit and then bypass the immobiliser!!

    \/ EDIT: it appears as though he IS.. LOL!.. good luck with that newbbie!

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    Hopefully the alarm would alert me but who knows, I think I will have to take the chance as it is coming soon. Is the antenna ring the same as the ignition barrel and if so do I have to get one from the dealer or can I pick one up from the scrap yard?
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by billywhizz1984 View Post
    Going back to your previous post...

    1995 E36 316i saloon Car won't start!

    I think you've misunderstood how the immobiliser works or I'm not understanding how you want to use this system.

    You are buying a remote locking kit that comes with "flip" fobs and uncut key blanks. To make this work with your current immobiliser (EWS II) you split the key open, remove the chip, and place it inside your new fob. When you insert the key in the ignition the induction ring picks up the chip, disables the EWS and allows the car to start. You only need to bypass EWS if you plan on setting up remote starting which doesn't come as part of the system you have identified.

    Have a look here....

    http://www.bimmerforums.co.uk/forum/...y-guide-t9795/
    Sorry did not see your reply before I posted again, so what you are saying is that I can put this system in and it will open the doors remotely but the immobiliser does not need to be touched as I will only be activating it when I turn the key in the ignition? Sorry to sound so dim but I really am so new to all this and am trying to learn.
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by newbbie View Post
    Sorry did not see your reply before I posted again, so what you are saying is that I can put this system in and it will open the doors remotely but the immobiliser does not need to be touched as I will only be activating it when I turn the key in the ignition? Sorry to sound so dim but I really am so new to all this and am trying to learn.
    exactly, the immobiliser is only concerned with engine starting, and is separate from the alarm
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheEnd View Post
    exactly, the immobiliser is only concerned with engine starting, and is separate from the alarm
    I had a read at the link to the thread that billywizz posted and it shows how to transfer the transponder into the flip key, I have two keys, one looks like the master and the other the valet but they both start the engine, would that mean they both have a transponder in them as I thought only the master did?
     
     

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    All keys for your car will have a chip. Each new flip key you make will have to have a chip from one of the old keys in it. You don't need to touch anything to do with the antenna or immobiliser. The difference between the master & valet keys are purely about what locks they will physically open. Chip-wise they are both the same.
     
     

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