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    Hey guys, I went to Quarry Motors yesterday to pick up an AC compressor for a Mini, and 2 calipers and carriers from an E46 330, but they only had 3 drivers side calipers left, no passengers, soooo, is there any other cars front brake I can get that'll just bolt straight on like the 330's?
     
     

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    Free bump, I too would be interested in this, Im looking for an upgrade for my 328 fronts, the standard brakes just aren't filling up the space enough.
    Are the e46 330 a direct bolt on or do you need different carriers? Im assuming the 330 are bigger than the 285mm.
     
     

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    Yeah, you need the E46 front calipers AND the carriers and obviously 330 discs, then they'll bolt straight on. The 330i discs are 300 mm diameter. It's just trying to find the calipers and carriers 2nd hand. Thats the problems I'm having at the mo.

    If you do the conversion, and you haven't already got braided hoses, you might as well get them done at the same time, save having to mess about bleeding the brakes a 2nd time.
     
     

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    Am I right in thinking the e36 M3 setup are the same as the e46 330? The e46 setup seems a bit over priced. I was hoping there might been a complete aftermarket kit in the for sale section up for grabs, wouldn't imagine it too far off from what a standard 330 upgrade would set you back.

    My beemer deserves bigger brakes than my golf, it just looks a bit off parked next to each other on the drive :s
     
     

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    No, I was told the E36 M3 discs are slightly bigger than the 330's at 316mm, but you need to use the M3 hubs or something, and that gives your car a little more negative camber, which will wear out the inner edge of your tyres. It depends on wether or not you want that.
     
     

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    I believe you may be right about the e36 M3 discs being 315 but I thought the e46 330 were 325mm. I've had a look on ebay and it seems there is a set of calipers from what looks to be a breaker for the e46 330 going for £80 per side. He's got a driver and passenger caliper listed on there at the moment.
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharleyNokia View Post
    a little more negative camber, which will wear out the inner edge of your tyres.
    This is a very common misconception. It is not excessive camber by itself, but excessive toe (by itself or with camber) that wears the inner (toe in) or outer (toe out) edges of tyres. I run -3 degrees (F) and -2.5 degrees (R) camber on my M3 (for road and track) but with minimal toe in. The fronts do have more wear on the inner and outer edges but that’s due to the track driving and the very high rate of camber as the steering is used (dynamic camber). The rears however are perfectly evenly worn.

    BOT - the E46 32x carriers and discs can be used with your standard E36 calipers.
     
     

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    I definately have my heart settled on no less than the e46 330 discs, definately going for looks as well and if theres space there then it has to be filled Also has to be similar in size to the set on my Golf if not bigger, alot of my mates have pointed out the difference in brake size.

    I was hoping for more aftermarket kits to be circulating through the for sale section
     
     

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    Here's some clarity on the compatibility as I see some of the information above is wrong.

    e36 318ti (up to early 1998), some 316s
    Caliper: 54mm piston
    Rotor: 286x12mm
    Rim size: 15+"

    All e36 3xx models (except in 1. and M3)
    Caliper: 54mm piston
    Rotor: 286x22mm
    Rim size: 15+"
    (Rear rotors: 280x10mm)

    e36 ///M (M3, MCoupe, MRoadster)
    Caliper: 60mm
    Rotor: 315x28mm
    Rim size: 17+" (very few 16" rims will fit)
    (Rear rotors: 312x20mm)

    e46 330
    Caliper: 57mm
    Rotor: 325x25mm
    Rim size: 17+"

    e46 32x
    Caliper: 54mm
    Rotor: 300x22mm
    Rim size: 16+"
    (Rear rotors: 294x19mm)

    Upgrading to e46 330 Front Brakes

    2 x Front 330 Caliper Carrier (34-10-6-750-158)
    1 x Left Caliper (34-11-6-750-149)
    1 x Right Caliper (34-11-6-750-150)
    2 x Spring Clips (34-11-6-750-159)
    2 x Front e46 330 rotor
    1 x Set of 330 brake pads (330 brake pads are identical to M3 brake pads)

    Upgrading to e46 32x Front Brakes

    2 x Front e46 32x caliper slider (carrier)
    2 x Front e46 32x rotor
    1 x Set of e46 32x brake pads
    (The calipers are identical to e36 3xx models)
     
     

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    There is this link here.

    http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/s...akes/index.htm

    The problem I'm having tho is finding a pair of calipers with the carriers, but if there is a pair on Ebay, I'll have a look. I foned up GSF, and got a price for the 330 calipers on their own, and they said about £76 each, with a £10 surcharge on each caliper I think it was. So if they're 152 a pair of recond calipers, instead of just used ones, then I would go for that plan, but it's still sourcing a pair of used carriers. They are £137 EACH from BMW!!!

    Or are Z3 fronts a straight bolt on onto an e36? The 2.8/3.0?
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