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    Quote Originally Posted by Bremsen Technik UK View Post
    You obviously know far more than i do about all things brake related, i will bow to your superior knowledge.
    I never said I did? - trying to pick arguments with forum members probably isn't the best marketing tool in your arsenal either

    FWIW this post was in the TUNING section of the forum not in your subsection and my posts are based on threads and other information I've read - both on here and from other forums/sources. I don't think I've claimed to be the author/source of any of it?? and am only going on what I've read and the evidence/facts I've seen.

    It's entirely up to others to do the research and make informed decisions for themselves.

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    Wow pangster, I know I’m new here but I have been around forums for some time. That was some unprovoked, confrontational cr*p you just spouted. Did you get out of the wrong side of the bed?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy Lee View Post
    Wow pangster, I know I’m new here but I have been around forums for some time. That was some unprovoked, confrontational cr*p you just spouted. Did you get out of the wrong side of the bed?
    not at all!!.. maybe you should try reading what was posted?

    and FWIW I started this thread with a genuine question and there only seems to be one person trying to derail it.

    In addition - i've since found out that the K-Sports (which are identical to the D2 items) are used fairly extensively in time attack and various other track events in the UK with fairly good reports.

    But if you believe some of what was posted in this thread then you should only use Brembo brakes and only those specifically supplied by Bremsen

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangster View Post
    not at all!!.. maybe you should try reading what was posted?

    and FWIW I started this thread with a genuine question and there only seems to be one person trying to derail it.

    In addition - i've since found out that the K-Sports (which are identical to the D2 items) are used fairly extensively in time attack and various other track events in the UK with fairly good reports.

    But if you believe some of what was posted in this thread then you should only use Brembo brakes and only those specifically supplied by Bremsen
     

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    I will just say this, I did not read what Bremsen wrote and interpret it in the same way as yourself.

    Personally, I do my own research through my own testing, through reading on the internet (good but not great) and through friends and acquaintances who have used products. Re companies like D2, K Sport and BC Racing – I wouldn’t touch them myself. Their suspension products like to break and the damping valve quality leaves a lot to be desired. Regarding their brakes, I recall K Sport didn’t even pass TUV certification because the discs cracked on warm up, or something very similar to that.

    I have AP Racing BBKs front and rear. They are obviously a lot more expensive than other brands but there’s a reason why they are copied by everyone else and that they are the brake system of choice (along with Brembo) for many race series.
     

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    Something else I just remembered about K Sport BBKs. For all their kits they state how they are developed for each application. It’s funny then that for the E46 kit, and possibly others, that the bells aren’t even correct and need drilling to fit the hubs.
     

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    done a quick Google and found some reviews from people who actually have first hand experience of ksport brakes and have the kits installed on their cars:

    http://tinyurl.com/272hxhv

    can't really seem to find any bad reviews??... or any of the issues that you mention Tommy? - maybe post the link or pics etc?? in addition and interestingly enough I also came across this thread on the Lancer Register (who probably track their cars more than most):

    http://www.lancerregister.com/showth...t=sport+brakes

    interesting to see people who have had different setups (stock brembo, ap etc) actually share unbiased opinions when comparing them..

    but like what was said before - they're probably crap because they're cheap

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    There's a wide market and lots of information out there. If you can't find a bad word said about them then they must be good

    I started reading the Lancer review but starting laughing and stopped when he said he 'opted for DS2500 pads' and that 'THEY DON'T SQUEAL OR MAKE ANY NOISE AT ALL'. That, to me, spells someone who has little knowledge of track days and race compound pads.

    As mentioned before, if these companies make dampers that break at the welds, leak after fitting, are unmatched from the factory and make brake kits that are 'fully researched' but that the bells don't even fit onto the hubs, then just how well researched do you think they are? What level of quality materials do they use? How researched are the piston sizes, the differentials between them? etc etc
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangster View Post
    but like what was said before - they're probably crap because they're cheap
    I am not from that camp. I do my research and, where possible, I test products for myself.

    I once spent over £100 each for front discs by a company called Nitrac for my old 328 track car. The company touts cryogenic treatment as to what makes their discs better than anyone else. Those discs cracked after one track day! I then went for cheap (about £37 each) Brembo Max discs and can't praise those discs enough.

    That old track car of mine also had cheap GAZ GHA suspension. I did my research and I ignored plenty of forum advice not to go there. Turns out those coilovers served me very well indeed. Not excellent but good enough to put in some very hot lap times of various tracks including Nurburgring.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangster View Post
    done a quick Google and found some reviews from people who actually have first hand experience of ksport brakes and have the kits installed on their cars:

    http://tinyurl.com/272hxhv

    can't really seem to find any bad reviews??... or any of the issues that you mention Tommy? - maybe post the link or pics etc?? in addition and interestingly enough I also came across this thread on the Lancer Register (who probably track their cars more than most):

    http://www.lancerregister.com/showth...t=sport+brakes

    interesting to see people who have had different setups (stock brembo, ap etc) actually share unbiased opinions when comparing them..

    but like what was said before - they're probably crap because they're cheap
    dont think tommy knows as much as he thinks he does!
     

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