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    This isn't that car specific so I think it can go in general.

    Is it normal to get braking judder after having a 4 wheel alignment done ?

    ( brake discs are about 500 miles old )

    On an E46 330D 2004, blackdiamoind grooved discs, textar pads.

    Front tyres are Vred sessantas and around 9000 miles old and have a good 5ish mm tread left.
     
     

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    Update.

    Took the tyres off and had a proper look at them.

    The right tyre has worn on the outside a tad more than the one on the left. And both have general inner wear. Is this enough to cause a slight steering wheel judder at 70+ after a new alignment?
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by ipwn View Post
    Update.

    Took the tyres off and had a proper look at them.

    The right tyre has worn on the outside a tad more than the one on the left. And both have general inner wear. Is this enough to cause a slight steering wheel judder at 70+ after a new alignment?
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    No, in a word you shouldnt be getting braking judder after a wheel alignment!!!

    I would get them to check the aligment is right if it was me.... but you need to be 100% sure it didnt do this before...and that you arent just being rather paranoid after a 4wa

    It wont be the tyres I dont think if the diff is so minimal.

    Try this:
    find a safe, flat, open straight road. Get up to speed, check road behind is clear, and say 30 mph-40mph and hands off the wheel and check the car tracks straight.
    Then add brakes to a stop with hands off the wheel and see if the car stops in a straight line.

    Be sure the road camber doesnt trick you if it pulls the car out of line///
     
     

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    If it wasn't there before then it's definitely the alignment

    Juddering at high speed braking is a symptom of an incorrectly aligned vehicle.

    I wouldn't mention the brakes only being 500 miles old because they'll shift the blame onto you not bedding them in correctly which can cause the discs to warp

    EBC grooved discs had a bedding in period of 700 miles when I was in the trade, this was usually driving NOT a single trp of 700 miles
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by RYM View Post
    If it wasn't there before then it's definitely the alignment

    Juddering at high speed braking is a symptom of an incorrectly aligned vehicle.

    I wouldn't mention the brakes only being 500 miles old because they'll shift the blame onto you not bedding them in correctly which can cause the discs to warp

    EBC grooved discs had a bedding in period of 700 miles when I was in the trade, this was usually driving NOT a single trp of 700 miles
    Good info A20
     
     

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    I've read somewhere on here about Hunter Alignments, which is maybe worth a mention. Obviously you'd want the guys who did it originally to do a good job of it, so can you get your money back on it, or [aimed at the rest of the forum] is hunter alignment not really worth paying for??
     
     

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    Well the hunter sheet I got, everything was in the red.

    Now it's all done and green.

    Let me take it for a spin and get some detailed runs.
     
     

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    To be honest Lamper, alignment is so easily effected that whilst the Hunter Alignment equipment is top notch and worth every penny there is nothing preventing you from driving out of the garage and stright over a pot hole that could knock it outside of tolerances that other less sophisticated equipment can achieve

    Any alignment is better than no alignment and just because the equipment is available it doesn't necesarily say that the operator is any better

    What were the reasons for having the alignment done in the first place?

     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by ipwn View Post
    Well the hunter sheet I got, everything was in the red.

    Now it's all done and green.

    Let me take it for a spin and get some detailed runs.
    Is the steering wheel bang on central?
     
     

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    Well, it was reallllllly off centre, not it is like really really really slightly to the right. But that may be me being paranoid !

    Ok, even more of a development.

    It judders when pressing the pedal lightly at speeds 70 and above.

    Also could it be a sticking caliper? I've looked at my alloys and one is darker than the other?????????????? The reason i've brought this up is that when I jsut went for a more thorough drive, because I have grooved discs they make a proper ZZZZ sound. At one point I let go of the brake and there was still the ZZZ sound for a few more seconds !!!!

    What causes a sticking caliper and my indy changed my discs and pads not me. Is there a test aswell?
     
     

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