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  1. 1997 E36 323i - X-Brace retro fit. Additional piece? 
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    Hey guys, has anyone here actually retro fitted the X-brace onto their car? Does it actually give a feelable difference? Also, I was browsing last week, and found this article from UUC,US. Unfortunately, European E36 verts don't have this X-brace with the plate on it, only in the US, or on Z3's worldwide. I looked up this rubber bump stop on REALOEM, but was ony available in the US.

    Should I just fit the X-brace as is or get this bump stopper plate welding on too? The X-brace I got was from a 96/323 vert, so it is a later spec car, but no plate tho.

    http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/html_te...ace_buffer.htm
     
     

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    Thanks for that interesting information. I may have to search out a buffer. Regarding the plate on the brace, when I bought my brace, it was on there. You can just make it out in the photo:


    EDIT: I've just been on to my local BMW garage and have ordered the buffer part from Germany. It came to just under £10. I asked if there were any fixings that I needed to order but the parts advisor said there was nothing showing on the diagram. Hopefully the three fixings that can be seen in the UUC link are part of the buffer.
     
     

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    Yeah, the 3 split spikes are 1 piece with the rubber buffer thing, they push into the 3 holes you'll have in the plate. Damn, I wish I had that plate, will have to get one welded on then.

    So you haven't got the X-brace fitted yet then? When you do, tell us if the brace itself makes any bodily noticable difference to the handling/stiffness, and the power delivery too, cos that stop buffer is supposed to help.

    Oh, is your brace brand new from BM? Mine was from Ebay, got it for £30 posted.
     
     

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    Yeah my brace was new from BMW and it was fitted at the same time as a full suspension refit so I'm not able to say what it did on its own. Sorry
     
     

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    Doh. Ok, guess I'll have to see if mine does anything then. Will be on my way to the Bm dealer tomorrow then to order the rubber.
     
     

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    Hey charley.

    Sorry to high-jack the thread but how are you getting on with ur 330 setup ???

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    Hi donut, yeah, the brakes aren't that good now. :( I used O.E. Textar pads thats thats all GSF had in at the time. They were really sensitive for the first week or so, but now I've done over 500 miles with them, they should be bedded in nice now, they are really sloppy. I just don't feel the bite at all now.

    To slow the car down from about 50, I have to press quite hard, and to stop, I literally have to try straighten my leg. I haven't braked hard at all during bedding in, all just regular grandad driving for the 1st 200 miles around town etc, then gradually getting higher speeds but still steady braking, no stamping.

    Also, these Textar pads are SOOOO dirty. After only a 30 mile round trip with very minimal braking, they still leave a thin layer of dust. I wash my wheels 2-3 times
    anyway, but to tell you the pads are dirty big time.

    So, whoever wants to do this conversion, these are the parts you need;

    E46 330i front calipers with mounts/carriers. Make sure to have spring clips for both.
    E46 front discs, these are 325mmx25mm.
    Performance pad set like EBC Green/Red etc
    Stainless braided hose kit
    E36 M3 EVO brake master cylinder, brake fluid bottle and servo.
     
     

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    LOL.

    I think we were right i the last thread. The setup works great but you REALLY need good pads. Spend a little more on decent pads yellows or go for race pads. I've only done about 1200 miles in the last 6 months but my PF pads stll rock . Once the heat up with just a couple of miles they still are amazin '. Up here in scotland we drive b and c roads mostly and you really can scare the big boys with ur outbraking.
    So Charley get yourself some good pads and go rock it !!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonutMan1 View Post
    LOL.

    you really can scare the big boys with ur outbraking.

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    You sure can!
    I have an M3 set up on mine, and had evo discs (now running with black diamond) and performance friction z rated pads.

    Once you had a bit of heat in them, they were amazing, i frequently had to check behind incase someone following couldn't stop in the same distance.

    watch from about 3.40 onwards


    You can see one car turning infront of me to give you a clue where the corner is, the braking point was by where the cones start, and midway through, i have to let off the brakes otherwise i'd have stopped dead! (you can see the tie wrap on the A pillar loom as a cheapo G meter!)

    Estimates from the rpms suggest i was up to 100-105mph before braking.
     
     

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    At about 3:03, that silver Golf you overtook, was his door open??
     
     

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