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    hi every one

    ive always been into car tuning since i can remember cars have amaized me! and ive always wanted the fastest car! BUTTTT i have never tuned a car yet due to lack of funds and not having the balls to stick more than a exaust and a air filter on my car :P but now ive grown a decent set and have more funds! ime intending buying a m3 evo 3.2 unit and turboing it! ide rather not change the clutch or gear box or anything though! maybe upgrade the engines insides if its not to expensive! thers a couple of questions i have 2 ask you guys. as you can probably tell ime not the smartest nut in the box and dnt really have a clue how engines work i know the basics but nothing 2 rebuild my own. so hear goes...

    1. what turbo would be best for the car inc make n how much it would cost 2 buy and fit.

    2. how much would it cost 2 buy new cams and everything for the internals 2 enable a bigger turbo? would it be worth it? and would tht mean changing clutch and gearbox???

    3. would my car still be reliable after all these mods?

    ime not smart so explain everything as though your explaining it to a 7 year old :P ha

    thnx very much all of your comments and tips and ansers will be very usefull and ile be very gratefull

    niall
     
     

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    ive always been told a garret gt35 turbo is a reallt good turbo to go for, prob looking at a grand for it, (not quite sure thou),

    i would deff recomend upgrading ur inturnals, but if uve got a good engine it could last u a long time till it goes bang,

    its a lot of money, but if it was me i would do the inturnals, up rate the clutch an brakes,

    heres a 535, not the same car but might give a little idea,
    http://www.millerperformancecars.com...bo-system.html
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by 335compact View Post
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    evo engines do spin shells so decent con rod bolts are a must..arp do these
    what i've felt,what i've known
    never shined through in what i've shown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doy View Post
    they are for e46...
    if they have them they'll prob have or be able to get what he needs,
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by niall_farley View Post
    hi every one

    ive always been into car tuning since i can remember cars have amaized me! and ive always wanted the fastest car! BUTTTT i have never tuned a car yet due to lack of funds and not having the balls to stick more than a exaust and a air filter on my car :P but now ive grown a decent set and have more funds! ime intending buying a m3 evo 3.2 unit and turboing it! ide rather not change the clutch or gear box or anything though! maybe upgrade the engines insides if its not to expensive! thers a couple of questions i have 2 ask you guys. as you can probably tell ime not the smartest nut in the box and dnt really have a clue how engines work i know the basics but nothing 2 rebuild my own. so hear goes...

    1. what turbo would be best for the car inc make n how much it would cost 2 buy and fit.

    2. how much would it cost 2 buy new cams and everything for the internals 2 enable a bigger turbo? would it be worth it? and would tht mean changing clutch and gearbox???

    3. would my car still be reliable after all these mods?

    ime not smart so explain everything as though your explaining it to a 7 year old :P ha

    thnx very much all of your comments and tips and ansers will be very usefull and ile be very gratefull

    niall

    Firstly, it is very expensive to turbo an M3 engine...
    and takes a lot of knowledge and a fair amount of skill!....

    and it all depends on how much power you want, and how much wonga youve got

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    1/ Gt35R is a beast of a turbo for these engines. Cost about £1250

    But the cost doesnt stop there, you need oil lines, low compression head gasket, ARP head studs, intercooler, intercooler pipework, exhaust manifold, wideband O2 sensor, intake manifold modification
    Then you need to think about ECu tuning or a standalone ECU

    2/ A lot.

    you dont need cams.
    If the vanos is staying you need to get an ECU tuner who can remap the current ECU as most standalones except Motec cant control dual vanos.

    What I would change

    conrods - £750-£1200
    ARP conrod bolts - £200
    New race bearing shells - ?
    ALl gaskets and parts needed for an engine rebuild - ?
    ARP head studs - £250
    Custom head gasket and O ringed block - £250 + £100 + £200 machining
    Pistons (if you want more than 500 hp at the rear wheels) - £900 ish
    Clutch will need upgrading whatever - Cost £500+
    Gearbox should be ok for a while


    Then, if you get that far, the car will eat rear driveshafts and mayeb the propshaft for breakfast if its putting out GT35R power, so you will need custom race ones and better CV joints maybe

    3/ If it was done right, then yes. but any car putting out serious power needs more attention than your average daily driver
     
     

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    yes i understand it will need looking after well after the mods have been made! so once i have all these parts wer abouts would be a reliable and good place 2 use 2 get everything fitted? i am aiming for about 500/600 rwhp and does any1 know of a good website 2 order all these performance parts of? thanx alot every1 that was alot of very good replys in a very short space of time very much appreciated
     
     

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    I think you need to experience the cost of running a M3 before you turbo one, they aint cheap to keep on the road, and pretty sure a turbo M3 Evo is pretty much uninsurable! the M3 along side the Subaru Impreza are the two most claimed on cars making them some of the hardest to get insured on, and thats standard!

    putting what is potentially a monster Turbo on a car already running over 300bhp is not going to go down well.

    The amount of uprating you would have to do to get the car anywhere near safe would cost you double what your looking at above.

    AP Brakes all round, £2500 plus
    suspension £1000
    new alloys to cover the monster brakes £500 plus
    things liike fuel lines, fuel pumps, clutch, brake hoses, engine mounts, gear box mounts, a very good gearbox repair man every year or so and the tyres!

    a M3 goes through tyres like fook standard. I get through £600 worth of tyres a year and mine never does anywhere near the 5000 a year its insured for.

    Have a serious look at the running costs and the maintenance needed to keep a evo on the road. They are old now so not only combating the engine problems and mods you wish to do, you will be looking at treating rust and worn out parts, and BMW parts are not cheap, espeecially anything thats got a M badge on the ass
     
     

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    yeh ive runa a few beemers and i know about the expence even my first 316 was bad 2 insure at 17 then i had a 328 and now a 728 along with all the others 2 but they wernt bmws and besides its going 2 be a weekend car and i have a mate tht works for bmw tht gets bits cheap and ive already thought about all the other expensive bits i have bigger wheels and disks from my other beemers i dnt think you need to spend 2500 on breaks 2 be fair!!! :P and tyres arent a problem the guy hu works for bmw has loosers coming in all the time geting all ther tyres replaced becouse 1 got a puncture so he sells me the almost new tyres for a 5er each tht go perfect 255/40/18 and ime sure it wont break a gearbox every year if ime only using it on weekends in the summer! trust me ive thought about the cost and this isnt going 2 happen over night ive got a fair bit saved up for it 2 get me started if i spend 6000 on the car i have 4000 for parts so far and just do the rest as money comes! the only thing i am worrying about is the gearbox atm but wele c what hapens
     
     

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