Eventually got myself the car i always wanted 316i E46 1975cc 4 door saloon. The wife has a 116i 1975cc and the son 316i 1800cc cabby poor dad had to be last as i have changed my car 3 times in 3 years eventually getting to where i wanted to be, i must add that the cars are not brand new. youngest 6 years oldest 8 years never the less we are proud BMW owners. Last 3 card of mine were a mazda 323F 1.6, Brand New Punt (don't laugh) nice run-around), Astra SXI 1.4. good fast for 1.4 but not a patch on the BMW. Anyway i look forward to posting and talking in the furure.