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    Having a disaster with 6 year old 645 I bought 2 years ago.
    Was a fast 'ticking' noise coming from engine that could only be heard outside of car. Took into local garage, who started at top of engine and worked there way down. Discovered problem with pistons (4 week delay while waiting on Special tool from Germany). Quote of £3500 at this stage, Once pistons out, discovered scores in bore holes. Ordered Short Motor? (£4,500) but that turns out to not include crankshaft, etc. So now looking at full new engine, which is coming in at £11,200 + vat.

    Once add in garage fitting cost would be better scrapping the car!
    Garage tried to source 2nd hand engine, but in 3 months car in garage only 1 came up (£4,200), but at the last stage it turned out not to be fit for purpose.

    No complaints about the garage, they have been great.

    Anybody any ideas where I could source a 2nd hand engine?

    Any help appreciated.
     
     

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    mate
    sorry to hear of you bad news, try here mate

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    Thats a shocker mate, ideally you want to find a written off 6er with a good engine I guess?

    How many miles and was it looked after? Seems very strange for an engine to go like that!

    Some may laugh at me for saying this but I'd be very tempted to take it up with BMW if it was low mileage and well looked after.
     
     

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    Bought it with 37,000 miles from main BMW Dealership.
    Now done 51,000.

    Small local garage I deal with (BMW only) commented on the noise when I took it in for my first MOT (About 2 months after warranty expired)
    Said 'You better get that noise checked out could end up serious. We can't do it, need special tool and its £1000 for it'

    With hindsight, at that point I should have taken it back to the dealership, but thought they will charge me an arm and a leg. So found another garage specialising in BMW/Audi and the rest is history now.
    If I try to go back to the dealership they are going to say 'Love to help you, but you have the car sitting in another garage with engine out. Should have came to us first'

    And to rub salt into the wound, my wife has been saying to me for months 'there's a funny ticking noise coming from the engine, you better take it back and get it checked out while its still under warranty'
    But as it had been like that for months and was driving great, I was too lazy to do anything about it. (Never going to hear then end of it from her!)
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocam View Post
    Bought it with 37,000 miles from main BMW Dealership.
    Now done 51,000.

    Small local garage I deal with (BMW only) commented on the noise when I took it in for my first MOT (About 2 months after warranty expired)
    Said 'You better get that noise checked out could end up serious. We can't do it, need special tool and its £1000 for it'

    With hindsight, at that point I should have taken it back to the dealership, but thought they will charge me an arm and a leg. So found another garage specialising in BMW/Audi and the rest is history now.
    If I try to go back to the dealership they are going to say 'Love to help you, but you have the car sitting in another garage with engine out. Should have came to us first'

    And to rub salt into the wound, my wife has been saying to me for months 'there's a funny ticking noise coming from the engine, you better take it back and get it checked out while its still under warranty'
    But as it had been like that for months and was driving great, I was too lazy to do anything about it. (Never going to hear then end of it from her!)
    Have you thought about writing to BMW about this, not the local Stealer but head office, they may be of help, especially given the low mileage, I'd certainly give it a go if I was you, certainly wouldn't accept that a car of that age with relatively low mileage would go like that, it's not down to being thraped and levels not kept topped up is it? Sorry to ask but if the answer to that question is a definite no then I'd be going to BMW direct about this quoting the 'fit for purpose' rules within the consumer rights act.
     
     

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    It's definately worth a try with bmw, I'd have thought you've got more chance of a gob job off teresa palmer (flavour of the month) but still!

    On a serious note, it really does suck and you make a valid point, it's got to make things worse that the wife told you to check it out!
    This is in northern ireland but is that any worse than the south of england?? (see pic)
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    Quote Originally Posted by btccfan View Post
    It's definately worth a try with bmw, I'd have thought you've got more chance of a gob job off teresa palmer (flavour of the month) but still!

    On a serious note, it really does suck and you make a valid point, it's got to make things worse that the wife told you to check it out!
    This is in northern ireland but is that any worse than the south of england?? (see pic)
    With a lot of tenacity and a never give up approach you'd be surprised what can happen, I do this sort of stuff for a living (general consumer type stuff) and just because this is a car, it's really no different. The OP will get fobbed off to start with but the perseverance should help, all depends if the OP is happy that this is not their doing and it's due to an issue with the car.
     
     

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    OUCH!

    I would take this to the door of BMW, its unacceptable and the car purchased has not seen a sustainable period that was intended for both condition and price. I would be very surprised if BMW did not help with this or at least sponsor parts whilst you pick up the labour.

    Get in touch with the dealership where you bought the car then go to head office
     
     

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    Thanks for all it advice.
    Never considered going back to BMW.
    On the plus side, My garage has just sourced a 2nd hand 645 engine from breakers.
    From a 2006 645 with 41K miles for £3000 Comes with 1 year guarantee.
    Coming up from England (I'm in Glasgow) this week.
    Hopefully that will finally be the end of it.
    If the engine turns out to have any issues, then I think I go with suggestions to go back to BMW company and see what they say
     
     

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    I've never understood the thought of spending money on fixing a car like in this case only to off load it aferwards.

    With a newish (i would assume recon'd in the process engine) in it, would it not make sense to keep it ?

    The garage fitting the engine should provide some warranty.
    E39 M inspired
     
     

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