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    A polish works like a moisturiser, adding vital oils back to the finish, most contain some form a chemical cleaner or micro abrasives to correct defects.

    A wax will offer no corrective properties but forms a barrier to protect the surface.

    Products are available that offer "all in one" properties that clean, polish and protect, the protection though is limited and best to top of with a pure wax.

    This may help,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gleammachine View Post
    A polish works like a moisturiser, adding vital oils back to the finish, most contain some form a chemical cleaner or micro abrasives to correct defects.

    A wax will offer no corrective properties but forms a barrier to protect the surface.

    Products are available that offer "all in one" properties that clean, polish and protect, the protection though is limited and best to top of with a pure wax.

    This may help,

    http://gleammachine.net/page11.htm

    thats some good reading, thanks for that.

    So do you think my choice of wax is a good product?
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    I clay mine prior to doing my Wax, but it's not 100% necessary, I tried different products and for the price and longevity of mine I have got ok results :-)

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    Again not the BM, but you'll see the difference....

    Before:


    After:


    I use it on my alloys too, and my side and rear windows :-)

    Here my door from a bit I did on removing/relieving dents with compressed air:


    Finished product:


    I'm sorry for the gratuitous re-use of Honda pics but thye do show up the shine well :-)

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    Wow that before and after shot looks amazing, that is a nice finish, shame I wont get a mirror finish like yours coz mine is silver!

    I think im going to use it on the rear and quarter windows as well, lol
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    Try it on a small patch first to check it doesn't cause smearing etc. I found mine out by accident, works a bit less well than rain X, but anythings better than nothing :-)

    Hope it goes well for you, remember one panel at a time (I usually work clockwise....), on big panels i.e. the bonnet you can do quarters or halves... if you find the wax is setting quick which it often does for me :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zigourney View Post
    thats some good reading, thanks for that.

    So do you think my choice of wax is a good product?
    Collinite 915 is a very nice wax and also a good price, the key to a good finish and durability is in the prep work, as long as the paintwork is contaminent free (clayed) and the paintwork has been cleansed (paint cleaner) then the wax will bond well and enhance the finish.
     
     

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    What are peoples opinions on Autogylm Super Resin Polish, ive heard good things about it before, am I correct in thinking that it is a fairly light abbrasion polish?

    I like the Dodo Juice from what Ive read but it seems the most expensive.

    One product ive used in the past, on my old Seat, was that wax from Lidl, comes in a tube, like a big tooth paste. Very hard stuff to get off, but it lasted ages and i was very impressed with it.

    Ive been using Meguiars Gold Class lately, it seems to last well, and it is very easy to buff off.

    If anyone could recommend a good polish product for a black car to do before waxing. My car is still very shiny so maybe it doesnt need it, it appears to have been well looked after. But there are the usual light scratches and marks that id like to see if i can rub out before its next wax, i dont need a very abbrasive one though.

    And also what do people recommend in restoring the black trim on the bumpers, door handles etc. ?
     
     

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    Hi HJL

    I too have black paintwork and the following products have been recommended to me.

    AutoGlym Super Resin Polish does a good job of masking scratches because of the fillers in it but won't really remove them.
    Finish off after polishing with Collinite 476 wax which gives good protection


    If you're budget will stretch, Dodo Juice Blue Velvet or Dodo Juice Deep Purple just put on 2 coats of wax and it'll last 4-6 months as long as you use detergent free shampoo, there's a review of the Dodo Juice HERE

    Are you washing using the 2 bucket method, lambs wool wash mitt and drying with a towel ?
    All these things can aid to keep your paintwork swirl free but will not remove any swirls or scratches.

    Sorry I've not had to do any of the plastics yet.

    I'm sure Gleammachine can advise you of more professional products

    Good luck, there's nothing quite like gleaming black paintwork
     
     

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    If you've got a black car with relatively good paintwork, I'd Use Collinite after BH clay. However if your paint work isn't great you could use BH Autobalm, great stuff, seems like a miracle some of the things it covers...... If your paintwork is totally scratched to bits either go professional (i.e. get someone in) or get some AG SRP if that doesn't work go for some AG Paintwork renovator....... all will help a respray will cure..........

    My black one being a honda has crap paintwork on it, and is now slowly scratching itself to bits, but it looks good with a good waxing after clay and collinite seems to mask a few swirls etc.

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    My paintwork is in pretty good condition. Not too many marks at all, 8 years old and 142k on the clock so its never going to be 100% perfect, main issue is the stone chipping on the bonnet, i think ill get a touch up kit for that, there are sellers on eBay that sell the exact paint match, got one for my Ibiza and it done an ok job at minor touch ups.

    I might try Collinite 476, whats 915 like in comparasion?

    I plan to clay my car shortly, i have a Meguiars Clay Bar Kit which ive tried on on my fathers Vectra and was impressed with the results after using Meguairs Gold Class Liquid Wax.

    Id really like to try Dodo Juice Purple but the price tag and delivery charge to Ireland is £40+, now i know my big box full of car products exceed that price, but it seems a lot on just one little tub!

    I tend to use Meguiars Gold Class Shampoo to wash the car, or Car Plan Triplewax Wash and Wax, both are detergent free and wont lift the wax.
    So the wax tends to stay on for a good while.

    I used two buckets, but i dont have a lambs mitt wash glove, i do have a microfibre wash sponge though, and i do usually wipe down with a cloth afterwards to shine it up nicely.
     
     

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