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  1. How to get Estoril blue to look a deeper blue? 
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    When I detailed my car the other week I used :

    Megs gold class shampoo
    Zymol autobathe
    Sonus fine clay bar with megs detailer
    Menzerna polishes (various)
    3M Rosa
    Zymol carbon wax

    To my eyes the car colour looks ace but I'm wondering if my Estoril blue is looking too light . I know it sounds silly but a few comments and a look at some pics on the net has got me wondering if the 3M Rosa was the wrong glaze/polish to use.

    Pics of my car are on this thread:

    http://www.bimmerforums.co.uk/forum/...one-it-t87218/

    If this is the case what would you guys use to make the blue come out deeper if that makes sense
     
     

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    You won't get the blue looking deeper, it'll just get more shinier..

    I would only use the 3m rosa wax after a quick wash and dry and not part of my main arsenal of products when doing a proper detail. What you need is a wax with a higher carnuba content than the 3m, something like colli 915 to finish the car off.

    Which menzerna polishes did you use and was it a machine detail?
     
     

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    Hiya, yes I have one of the kestrel retailers (not brave enough for the makita LOL).

    I have 3 of the menzerna polishes so used various ones to take out swirls etc.

    The zymol carbon wax is something like 39% carnauba, so are you saying I should have left the rosa and maybe just used the zymol carbon wax or is there a glaze I could have used in between?

    Maybe I should have used menzerna final finish all over and then gone straight to the carbon wax ?????
     
     

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    I'm not 100% sure on the menzerna polishes because I haven't used them before but a final finish polish properly worked in with a good pad should bring up a glossy finish. A glaze should be used before waxing, the 3m polish rosa is only a "wax" because it contains silicone and not really very good at adding luster to any other colours than red or black - protection in real terms is around 1 week max even though 3m say it will give up to 3 months.

    You could try poorboys glaze or the 3m machine glaze, both contain fillers so will hide minor imperfections and bring out a shine. Unless you already have SRP then that could be used to add gloss..
     
     

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    as sham says above,

    poor boys black hole will add gloss, and is very good too you will notice the diffrence

    as for a wax, colli is good but i have been using dodo juice supernatural on my mystic blue and the glossy wet look that it gives is miles better than the colli ever did
     
     

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    I really like colli's but the wet look I get from the zymol carbon is sooooooo much better that I'm willing to forgo the longevity.

    It does sound like the 3M rosa was a mistake - damn, looks like I'll have to start over :(

    So this time it should be:

    Megs shampoo
    Dry
    Zymol Hd cleanse to take off wax (or should that be clay)
    Zymol Auto bathe (bit like a posh wash)
    Menzerna final finish on kestrel polisher
    Some sort of glaze ?????
    Zymol carbon wax

    And breath :LOL
     
     

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    To be honest i'd leave it for now or at least get the paint depth measurements, because if its original paint you won't know the history and you could be very close to breaking through the lacquer. Or alternatively just remove the wax, polish/glaze by hand and then re wax..
     
     

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    I pretty sure the paint depth is okay Sham

    Does the process sound right to you?
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onedesi View Post
    To my eyes the car colour looks ace but I'm wondering if my Estoril blue is looking too light

    Car looks fine, you're just worrying.


    To be honest, technically showing pics doesn't really help due to variations in camera, usually slight, lighting due to weather, usually great, and the difference of each screen we are all viewing on separately.

    Still looks fine though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by E36Coupe328 View Post
    Car looks fine, you're just worrying.


    To be honest, technically showing pics doesn't really help due to variations in camera, usually slight, lighting due to weather, usually great, and the difference of each screen we are all viewing on separately.

    Still looks fine though.
    That's very kind of you and your comments re pics are fair.

    Trouble is SOMEONE has commented adversely and said it's not as good as deep as colours seen so I figured one go won't hurt (I like being outdoors these doors).
     
     

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