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  1. 1998 E36 328i - Dull paintwork HELP! 
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    Hi all,

    I my E36 almost 9 months ago and the paintwork is dull almost all over.

    The owners before were aparently BMW entusiasts! However the paintwork has not been polished for what looks like the last 6 years or so. It's been cleaned at a car wash regularly but never waxed or anything.

    I have been thinking about a respray but, with cost, would like to try any products which you guys may have used or tried for the same problem.

    I have done a bit of research and found that clay detailing can help. Lots of people with show cars use this before a show and it takes all the crap off the paintwork.

    but does it work?

    Any help or advice is appreciated. Thanks in advance.

    O and the car is Diamond Black Metallic if it helps.
     
     

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  3. Re: 1998 328i - Dull paintwork HELP! 
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    best to use a clay bar and good quality polish like collenite and dodo juice thats what i use my black car is mirror finish

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    Black is a very rewarding colour to work on if done right mate.

    I'd start off with a clay session, tar remover etc to get the paint smooth to the feel. Then a compound, polish and swirl remover polish and finally wax.

    You'll have to spend quite a bit on products and a machine if you don't have them but it shouldn't cost more than £200 for quality products.

    Products I use:

    - megs clay and mer detail spray
    - farcela G3
    - 3M Extra fine
    - 3M machine polish (don't miss this step especially on a black car)
    - 3M Ultrafina SE (Swirl eliminator)

    and for waxes I go:

    - 3M polish rosa (cleans machine polish residue easily and is a wax)
    - Collinite 915 to seal everything in (more carnuba so gives shine plus atleast 3 months protection)

    and ofcourse a rotarty machine and various pads.

    Although if you want to try it by hand cheaply a bottle of Autoglym super resin polish doesn't cost much, if available in Germany?
     
     

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    hi, your paint will probably come up quite well with a bit of work. Buy yourself a da polishes to learn with, i wouldn't use a rotory unless you have a paint thickness gauge. Wash then de-tar then clay and re rinse. Polish wise there are a lot of choices but I'm not sure what is available over there. I like using meguires 105 and 205 and menzerna polishes. After that a wipe down with a regular paint cleaner or hand polish like autoglym super resin and then wax.
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    Don't worry about whats available over here as i will be back inthe UK within two weeks on holiday plus you can pretty much get everything here. If not i will just order it from UK or US.

    I have already purchased 'Meguiars soft clay kit' or something like that. But didn't know if it was worth the time and effort doing the clay process.

    I did read that we had to use the clay process then use swirl remover and wax and so on but although i want my car to look great. i didnt want to spend so much money on products if it isn't going to work.

    I could just get a respray. plus ive never used these products before. so to use them and it fails would be a right kick in the teeth.

    Thanks for the advice though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamptonw852 View Post
    Don't worry about whats available over here as i will be back inthe UK within two weeks on holiday plus you can pretty much get everything here. If not i will just order it from UK or US.

    I have already purchased 'Meguiars soft clay kit' or something like that. But didn't know if it was worth the time and effort doing the clay process.

    I did read that we had to use the clay process then use swirl remover and wax and so on but although i want my car to look great. i didnt want to spend so much money on products if it isn't going to work.

    I could just get a respray. plus ive never used these products before. so to use them and it fails would be a right kick in the teeth.

    Thanks for the advice though.
    There's no reason to plump for a respray mate, The car potentially could look perfect by spending a couple of hundred on kit and then watching a few youtube vids for tips. Getting a pro detailer to work on the car would probably cost you a tenth of the price of a good respray and could potentially look better as alot of bodyshops don't finish down properly.

    Where in the UK are you going and will the car be with you? I could tell you within a few minutes if its worth buying the gear just by taking some maint measurements for you

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    My way is:

    1)Wash with washing up liquid (helps to remove some old wax and other crap)
    2)Rinse with clean water
    3)Clay the whole car with a Dodo Juice Grey bar using either clay lube or failing that a mix of washing up liquid and water
    4)Rewash the car then rinse and dry thoroughly
    5)Apply 2 coats of Dodo Lime Prime Lite to finish cleaning the paint.
    6)Apply to coats of Dodo Supernatural wax on the top and my 5 series came out great considering the dealer didn't even wash the outside before delivery.

    trick is take your time and do it right.

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    Oh and a great place to go for tips in Detailing World!! Look for any machine polishing tips by either Dave KG or Caledonia!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4wheeldriver View Post
    Oh and a great place to go for tips in Detailing World!! Look for any machine polishing tips by either Dave KG or Caledonia!!
    I'l second that! Pair of top blokes and just so happens to be the people that taught me to machine properly.
    Meh....
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by GavGTD View Post
    I'l second that! Pair of top blokes and just so happens to be the people that taught me to machine properly.
    When were you there? I did a course last Aug with them!
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