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    Well they won't be legal in 2012,

    Products on the lens that reduce light output.

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    Red lights still will, just spraying orange ones red won't.

    No mention of the colour.

    Anyway you can buy them already like this for VW so probably out there for BM.

    Also reduce is such a subjective thing like the 30% VLT (or whatever it is) for window tints.

    When's the last time you saw an MOT station that could measure that?


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    Quote Originally Posted by E36Coupe328 View Post
    Red lights still will, just spraying orange ones red won't.

    No mention of the colour.

    Anyway you can buy them already like this for VW so probably out there for BM.

    Also reduce is such a subjective thing like the 30% VLT (or whatever it is) for window tints.

    When's the last time you saw an MOT station that could measure that?
    It will most likely be any light that has a product used on the lens that reduces light output, VOSA won't go to the hassle of bringing out different rules for different colour lights/lens, then as for the failing of it, it will be the usual testers discretion. (that one phrase that gets on every motorists tits come MOT time, )

    Think of all the other items that are down to my discretion, balljoints(how much play is excessive, ) a sidelight giving reduced output(how much is reduced,) wheel bearings with play....e.t.c.
     

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    Yep, so nothing about red indicators being illegal, just spraying stuff on the lights being, so at worst case the modified ones in this thread will be but not red indicators themselves.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie View Post
    it will be the usual testers discretion. (that one phrase that gets on every motorists tits come MOT time, )
    Much the same as the aftermarket exhaust thing then? Can be a fail if louder than a standard system (which most are). Would you pass Spiritentwined's lights Ronnie?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by E36Coupe328 View Post
    Yep, so nothing about red indicators being illegal, just spraying stuff on the lights being, so at worst case the modified ones in this thread will be but not red indicators themselves.
    Oh you mean that bit......

    d. that every direction indicator emits amber light (except vehicles first used before 1 September 1965)

    Reason for rejection.
    d. shows light of an incorrect colour
     

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    I've not read constructions and use in like 20 years, but the 2005 Mustang on autotrader seems to re-enforce what I believe to be correct. No type approval private imports that still pass the MOT with red tail lights.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco Stu View Post
    Would you pass Spiritentwined's lights Ronnie?
    Officially no...................

    Quote Originally Posted by E36Coupe328 View Post
    I've not read contructions and use in like 20 years, but the 2005 Mustang on autotrader seems to re-enforce what I believr ot be correct. No type approval private imports that still pass the MOT with red tail lights.
    New vehicles

    A 'brand new' vehicle can be driven to GB and registered as 'new' provided the vehicle:

    is registered within two weeks of collection - this may be extended to one calendar month at peak periods, eg before 1 March and 1 September
    only has reasonable delivery mileage - DVLA considers reasonable delivery mileage to mean the vehicle being driven from the pick up point to home using a direct route
    hasn’t been previously permanently registered
    has been stored before registration and is a current model or is a model that has ceased production within the last two years

    Advice to importers is to transport rather than drive vehicles from the port to the first destination.

    New vehicles must have a certificate of conformity as proof of type approval from the supplier or vehicle manufacturer.

    Left-hand-drive vehicles from within the European Community will need a certificate, issued by the Vehicle Certification Agency (VCA), under the Mutual Recognition scheme. This shows that changes have been made to the vehicle, making it suitable for use on British roads.

    Vehicles that haven’t been subject to European type approval will be subject to one of the following tests, they are:

    car - Individual Vehicle Approval (IVA)
    light goods vehicle - Single Vehicle Approval (SVA) test if it is a (up to 3,000kg)
    motorcycle or quadricycle - motorcycle SVA

    IVA scheme. http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...icle/DG_177879

    SVA test, http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...cle/DG_4022105

    LIGHTING/SIGNALLING (OBLIGATORY):

    Headlamps (dipped/main beam), indicators and side repeaters (including flash speed), side lights, stop/rear lights, no. plate lamps, reversing lamps, hazard warning and fog lights and reflectors are checked for operation, lens colour, brightness, position, angles of visibility and BS or E or e markings etc.. Some cars may not have an approved mark or may have incorrect lens colours e.g. combined indicator/side light lenses may be all amber in colour and would need to be changed to a combination amber/white lens available from a UK Model. The car would need a fog light to be fitted and the interior switch must be viewable when lit up by the driver in the normal seated driving position. It may be better to remove and dispose of any ‘after market’/extra driving/spot lights.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie View Post
    Officially no...................
    Unofficially....you'd be slightly silly to post on a public forum...
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie View Post
    New vehicles
    Not a new vehicle though and the IVA / SVA weren't around in the '90s were they?


    Not trying to be awkward but what I've read, although outdated, and seen doesn't line up.

    Happy to change my point of view and learn something useful when convinced


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