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    I've been gathering quotes for an LPG conversion to my 330ci E46. I do a lot of miles and it's a no-brainer for the conversion, I get to keep the power but reduce fuel costs - I estimate around £200 a month with a 25% decrease in efficiency.

    Has anyone had a conversion done, how have they found it?

    Also, has anyone had any dealings with: Ecotec Autogas in West Drayton or Battersea Autogas in Battersea, London?

    Ecotec, did tell me that BMW's don't normally need a valve saver kits (assuming this means an automatic vaporiser to keep lubrication) but they can fit one if I want, I need to speak to them some more about it but I'm not sure if it;s best to be safe by having one fitted or just trust them. I'm pleasantly surprised they didm;t just add on £150 and say "Yes sir, it's required and for the best" - either that or they wanted to win new trade by cutting costs... humm...
     
     

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    After long chats I've decided to go with Battersea Autogas as they came across as both frank, honest and convenient.
    Car is booked in for Monday 10th Feb for it's conversion. I'll report back once it's done.
     
     

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    What kit are you going for?

    Both my brother and I ran LPG happily for years.
     
     

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    I went for a BRC Sequent Plug&Drive system (i.e. the one that reads real time engine values and adapts input as required etc), it was more expensive than the base Lovato system they quoted but it apparently is a bit more durable so will last longer (hopefully). I also went for the electronic valve protection system on top just to be safe. I'm sure I've read that it's not needed but for £200 more I get piece of mind. Given that I do a lot of miles I'll save that in the first month of use alone and the whole installation will recoup it's costs within 7 months. So long as it runs trouble free for 12 months (it has a 2 year unlimited millage warranty) i'll be quids in. I should get a small road tax reduction also.
     
     

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    My mate works for flo gas birmingham and had his car converted he says it only cost him £14 per month in gas now to run a 2.0L

    E46 318ci coupe
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    E85 Z4 Roadster 3.0i
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    It's all relative, if he was paying £20 a month before and it now costs £14, that's not so good, if he was paying £40 a month previously and now it costs £14 then it's a good mod to make.
    I've based all my assumptions on a 20% drop in efficiency which seems reasonable. I filled up the petrol tank yesterday, drove home, drove back to the office this morning and filled up again and I used exactly 30 liters, that cost me £38.97
    Assuming a 20% loss in efficiency then I'll use around 35litres = £25.50, so I'll save £13.50 roughly every day I drive which is 3-4 times a week.

    Lets assume that is an average of 3.5days a week for 4 weeks a month that's: £188.58 saving a month, and £2262.96 in 12 months.

    Car insurance has gone up by £1 a year for having an LPG conversion and car tax I believe is £20 less a year. So I'm saving overall £2281.96, take off the install cost of £1565 and I'm £716 better off in the first year and over £2K in the second year.

    If I was only doing 20 miles a day then a conversion wouldn't really be sensible.
     
     

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    I seen a nice e46 M3 with lpg conversion up for sale this week on autotrader...tempting

    How much is the kit and fitting?

    Would u ever consider part fuel part hybrid batt like these lexus 0-60 in 5.9s and still provides over 30+ mpg even more with the smaller engined ones

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    I may be interested in an electric/hybrid.... BMW i8 for example

    I personally prefer to buy big engined older cars, the problem then is the fuel economy, I do a lot of motorway miles so having a small engine doing 4000rpm for 2 hours is not enjoyable. Give me a silky smooth straight 6 doing 2500rpm and i'm happier. If I can make that big engine more economical WITHOUT loosing performance then I'm very happy. Hence LPG is the best route for me.

    When batteries are more efficient and they make things nice and reliable I may go to electric.

    The supply of the BRC kit and extras + fitting is £1565 in total (that includes credit card surcharge etc)
     
     

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    Whats your thoughts on this lpg conversion M3?

    BMW M3 2dr 3.3

    E46 318ci coupe
    E46 330ci convertible
    E46 325ci coupe
    E85 Z4 Roadster 3.0i
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    It looks like any other M3 They don't tell you anything about the conversion so you'd need to find out the brand of LPG kit, who it was done by (ideally the sales invoice) and the LPG conversion certificate.

    One thing I did yet see is that tow eye cover is missing, that indicates it's been towed, probably broken down or something, my first thought is why? If I was going to buy a 7K M3, I'd buy a C110 scanner and take it along and hook it up so it can tell you everything wrong with it (or it may be perfect), I always use my scanner when buying second hand cars, people are always surprised, worried and inquisitive about it, if you do find something wrong (if it's minor) you can use it to haggle money off.
     
     

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