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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir-Cato View Post
    Not something the YB is particularly good at, i have seen numerous YB`s go wrong on every car site i have been on but never the M3 engine(including an m3 stage car). The YB was developed from the BDA, which was an incredible engine but the YB needs constant pampering to stay reliable. There is plenty of high mileage M3 engines that have only had the routine services but the YB cannot match that without a full rebuild. Personally i would take a silky smooth 6 cylinder purring away rather than a screaming 4 cylinder and im pretty sure most of this site would agree with me.
    yes, yb's will go wrong, most are old and uncared for but never an m3 engine. the double vanos on the evo has been known to take out the odd engine from time to time. no engine is perfect.no car is perfect.
    in general the standard m3 is pretty good though, no-one can argue with that. this isnt really comparing apples with apples though as there are too many fundamental discrepancies between the two engines and also the type of person that owns them.
    the yb is not unreliable though and is certainly not 'cheap plastic power'.
    dont forget that they cleaned up in the touring car arena in the 80s to the point where rules were put in place to outlaw them. the poor e30s just couldnt keep up!!!(maybe that would be a better comparison!!!!!!!!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mooser View Post
    yes, yb's will go wrong, most are old and uncared for but never an m3 engine. the double vanos on the evo has been known to take out the odd engine from time to time. no engine is perfect.no car is perfect.
    in general the standard m3 is pretty good though, no-one can argue with that. this isnt really comparing apples with apples though as there are too many fundamental discrepancies between the two engines and also the type of person that owns them.
    the yb is not unreliable though and is certainly not 'cheap plastic power'.
    dont forget that they cleaned up in the touring car arena in the 80s to the point where rules were put in place to outlaw them. the poor e30s just couldnt keep up!!!(maybe that would be a better comparison!!!!!!!!)

    anyway sorry for the hijack!!
    2.0 litre turbo vs 2.3 NA???
    To be fair the E30 would have needed a 4 litre engine NA to be on par with a turbo 2 litre.
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by martyn271985 View Post
    wish i hadent of started this thread now!lol think im gonna supercharge it now. A lot let hassle plus ill need the realibilty. Just gotta try and find a kit now!
    this seems cheap???
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    guess theres a 0 missing off the end!
     
     

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    Wouldn't look good for business for Reyland to publicise that they need to re-build the car before or after every race

    The engine in my mates E36 has had nothing but running issues since the day it was built. Don't get me wrong 360 BHP or whatever it's pushing WITH A MISSFIRE is still impressive

    They are great engines, highly tunable and there probably are examples that are looked after AND reliable but more often than not the stories you hear on the street are those explaining unreliability

    Personally I think ALL or ANY Turbo'd cars will start to become unreliable as soon as you start to push figures that they simply weren't designed to run constantly

    I think the reason you here more problems about Turbo'd cars than normally aspirated is just due to the fact that you can't achieve the equivalent gains from a Normally aspirated car to endanger it's performance. Whereas a Turbo you can gain massive amounts of BHP quite easily and cheaply and if done poorly or driven incorrectly it can be detrimental to the reliability of the car.

     
     

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    biggest killer of blown cars is driver error...they cant/wont warm them up before thrashing them...then cant/wont cool them down after the thrash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by martyn271985 View Post
    guess theres a 0 missing off the end!
    No..! The price is correct, but the kits are complete junk quality.

    The exhaust manifolds are 'useable' for a while as are most other bits except the turbo.

    Which are a grenade waiting to explode and be ingested by the engine (=scrap engine!)

    Also, a huge part of a turbo conversion on an engine that is NA from the factory is tuning, and the method and hardware that are used.
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by A20 RYM View Post

    Personally I think ALL or ANY Turbo'd cars will start to become unreliable as soon as you start to push figures that they simply weren't designed to run constantly

    You said it yourself! Lol


    But all I'm saying is they can be reliable if looked after! Plenty of YB's running stage 3 power (330/350bhp- 205bhp standard) and are fine.

    Same goes for BMW, Vauxhall etc etc.


    I'm not blinkered, I'm just saying whats truth..


    Ask Martin Hadland, He's a very open guy and said if anythings been wrong with his engine, which there hasn't bar the odd teething problem!
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boostist View Post
    2.0 litre turbo vs 2.3 NA???
    To be fair the E30 would have needed a 4 litre engine NA to be on par with a turbo 2 litre.
    come on, i was taking the piss a bit there.obviously thats no comparison at all.

    id love to see am m3 with a gt35r strapped to the side of it though, that should be an awesome set up if done correctly. quick spool and enough blow for 600bhp, thats the route id go anyway.

    325tds until i finish the skyline...........but i do quite like the tds!!!
     
     

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