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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbenstrikes View Post
    You rate the hot tuning ones as decent for day to day road use then?? I was thinking about getting my fronts polybushed first though..

    Also might be a dumb question but what are the adjustable top mounts you have as in what they do that the coillys dont?
    The E36 and E46 suspension is not adjustable at the front so the camber and castor angles cannot be changed. When you lower a car is changes all the suspension geometry. The car will drive Ok but will scrub tyres and never drive to its full potential.
    Front adjustable top mounts you can adjust the camber and castor to the correct geometry. These are similar to what is fitted..



    The hottunning ones are Ok, but quite firm. Polybushes first though ben...
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve23002 View Post
    The E36 and E46 suspension is not adjustable at the front so the camber and castor angles cannot be changed. When you lower a car is changes all the suspension geometry. The car will drive Ok but will scrub tyres and never drive to its full potential.
    Front adjustable top mounts you can adjust the camber and castor to the correct geometry.



    The hottunning ones are Ok, but quite firm. Polybushes first though ben...
    Holy moley that looks like some anal engineering.. (i like that kind of thing! ) So would someone who will do my tracking fiddle about with these then??

    Im not wanting a firm ride at all really.. bit stiffer.. probably m-sport stiffness but want to be able to lower the car as i want... hmmm.... i know this is possible with adjustable dampening but there megabucks!!
     
     

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    Running the same sort of thing on mine, not the best picture



    they do make a fair bit of difference, turn in is far better with a little negative camber.

    plus the top location of the strut is far more accurate and doesnt flex like with the standard topmount
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    thanks for the kind offer steve if im around your way il defo take you up on that one.
    talking about adjustble top mounts , the e46 does have the ability to adjust the camber on the front, there is a special tool that the snap on man tells me they do, it allso says on my hunter aligner the e46 has adjustble camber with the use of said tool.

    anyone confirm this?
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbenstrikes View Post
    Holy moley that looks like some anal engineering.. (i like that kind of thing! ) So would someone who will do my tracking fiddle about with these then??

    Im not wanting a firm ride at all really.. bit stiffer.. probably m-sport stiffness but want to be able to lower the car as i want... hmmm.... i know this is possible with adjustable dampening but there megabucks!!

    A proper company with a 4 wheel algnment ramp wouldnt have a problem with adjusting them...

    I would have a read around of reviews before you buy something ben. If you dont mind fixed lowering and dont want a firm ride Eibach springs and bilstien dampers are awsome..


    P.S Sorry Pangster, we've gone off topic mate...
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooperjohn View Post
    thanks for the kind offer steve if im around your way il defo take you up on that one.
    talking about adjustble top mounts , the e46 does have the ability to adjust the camber on the front, there is a special tool that the snap on man tells me they do, it allso says on my hunter aligner the e46 has adjustble camber with the use of said tool.

    anyone confirm this?
    IIRC it something to do with the pin in the top mount. Im an E30/E36 man myself, any not had much to do with the E46....
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve23002
    P.S Sorry Pangster, we've gone off topic mate...
    no worries steve!

    I'm sitting back enjoying the discussion that this has spurred!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangster View Post
    no worries steve!

    I'm sitting back enjoying the discussion that this has spurred!
    Its nice to have a sensible discussion on here for once...
     
     

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    Also quite enjoying the topic this has spurred on

    On the Hotunning front, i have them installed on my E46 Compact daily driver and they are ok but as already mentioned they can be pretty harsh and chrashy over pot holes (find yourself driving like a drunk trying to avoid them )

    I wouldn't fancy pushing them to the limit however and given the opportunity again i would save up a bit more and opt for some higher quality ones with strengthened top mounts, camber adjustable top mounts,and dampening control

    When i do replace my coilovers, which i'm planning to do sooner rather than later, i will be getting these http://www.bc-racing.co.uk/rm-series-coilovers.asp

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve23002 View Post
    A proper company with a 4 wheel algnment ramp wouldnt have a problem with adjusting them...

    I would have a read around of reviews before you buy something ben. If you dont mind fixed lowering and dont want a firm ride Eibach springs and bilstien dampers are awsome..


    P.S Sorry Pangster, we've gone off topic mate...
    I wouldnt mind fixed height as long as it sat just right...

    Im not that silly to buy things without ardeous research dont you worry steve..

    As lilo says the hot tuning are a bitty hard and i live in scotland where the roads arent very good to say the least..

    Dont suppose you would know roughly how much the eibach and bilstien dampers would equate to? And how much difference would this be compared to say eibach springs on the standard shocks??

    Any decent websites you know of??

    Thanks by the way guys..
     
     

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