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    Alright guys first ever post on the forum

    I have an E36 328i sport coupe that is standard bar coil overs and road legal race tyres which I race in a road legal Stockcar class. It's basically 10 laps round a 1/4 mile oval in either direction against over road cars.

    I was looking for suggestions on what I could do to get a little more out of my car going round the track, basically anything goes as long as it's road legal except from welded diffs.

    Many a brake upgrade or a chip that could enhance performance, the car is raced in 2nd gear on 15 inch wheels. I finished 3rd overall so any tip might make the difference next season

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    The M50 mainifold and a remap would help, and also think about a higher ratio diff, maybe an M3 3.2 rear axle swap to give you a 3.23 ratio LSD instead of the original 2.93 ratio.
     
     

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    Cheers mate

    Is the m50 manifold a straight swap I.e bolt of bolt on?
    Does this require a remap or can I just fit it and see the difference?
    Will the 3.23 diff fit the current axle?

    Sorry for being a pest

    Thanks again
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    You can fit the M50 manifold just buy itself, you can find DIY's on how to do it, and buy either partial kits from ebay, or complete ready to go manifolds. It has to be a 325i manifold, not a 320i one, so be wary.

    The 3.23 diff won't fit as it is, your complete options are a 3.15 LSD from either an LSD equipped 325i or M3 3.0 and this will fit your axle carrier, or get a complete M3 3.2 axle (it has a larger diff) with the 3,23 ratio.

    The evo rear axle will need an M3 3.0 prop to match your 5 speed gearbox (3.2's were 6 speed, so a bigger box) but it'll give you larger M3 rear brakes, a high ratio for better acceleration, and an LSD.
    Because of the extra work, they tend to be cheaper for what you get and represent better value, you might find a complete evo axle would cost £300, and an M3 3.0 "ready to fit" LSD would only be a little bit cheaper at maybe £250-ish.

    That extra £50-ish getting you an even better ratio and the bigger rear brakes so keep your options open.
     
     

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    Our remap on a standard 328i will make the car as quick if not quicker than 328i with m50 manifold with no remap to suit due to the extra torque it will have compared with a 328i with m50 manifold and NO remap
    Been tested

    A 328i with m50 manifold fitted will make around 208-212bhp on a dyno dynamics rolling road with or without bbtb fitted (see 2nd dyno graph)
    but will have a flat spot before 3500-3700 different software can help the flat spots
    Been tested


    A 328i with m50 manifold fitted
    our remap
    Standard air box fitted
    Will make 230-235
    Been tested many times over on our dyno
    Cold air induction kit fitted with above mods will make 235-239bhp



    A 328i with
    m50 inlet manifold fitted
    m3 exhaust manifolds and full system
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    No remap will make 220-224bhp
    With our remap will make 240-243bhp
    Been tested
    Standard air box holds back power
    With cold air induction kit our remap makes 248-252bhp and revs up much faster
    been tested
    See pembo's 328i
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    328i with m50 inlet manifold
    Air induction kit
    USA m3 cams
    Our remap on t1000's car back in 2006 made 263bhp there is loads of room for improvements in the mapping on this car still

    After Morgan t1000 fitted m3 exhaust manifolds it lost power on this car (will need retuning to suit m3 manifold set up)


    I've found that m50 manifolds that have been fitted using hose pipes and the 90 degree pipe connectors(take longer to install but alot cheaper)have made the same power as the machined m50 manifolds which are a nicer fit and easier to install

    Bbtb fitted have made no difference to a remapped car but have helped throttle response on cars with no remap installed

    Standard air box is good for up to 230ish bhp

    Cold air induction kit like Dave F or Simota helps car to rev up faster and more bhp on cars after 230bhp with m3 exhaust manifold and full system fitted

    You may need to shorten the lamda sensor mountings on the m3 exhaust manifold so the lamda sensors fit further into the exhaust gas stream

    With these mods and m50 with induction kit m3 headers our remap you will be looking at around 250bhp

    What you need for racing in them gears that you are using is as much torque from low down in the rev range up to the rev limiter

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    Would it be ok to give you a call tomorrow?
     
     

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    Alright folks

    I have finally decided on a M50 manifold upgrade complimented with a K&N generation 2 induction kit and remap.

    Car booked in for 25th November so I'll be fitting all the parts before by myself, any advise welcomed

    Many Thanks
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    I went for the K&N Gen II in the end as I couldn't afford the Simota kit at the time. If your budget can stretch I would recommend the Simota. That said, my car pulled 232.6bhp with the K&N Gen II and M50 manifold with a BW Chiptune custom map. I used the ebay fitting kit for the M50 and was a bit of a fiddle but it will fit, and work! Best of luck, tuning the 328 can be very rewarding!
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    - BW Chiptune Remap 232.6bhp 231fl/lb
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    Alright bud

    I will let you know what I get the K&N arrived today just waiting on the manifold it's going to be fun fitting it any tips
     
     

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