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  1. 2008 E87 118d M sport bluefin or not to bluefin? 
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    Hello,
    I have been looking at getting my 2008 118d m sport chipped and have searched the internet hi and low. The standard BHP I was told is 143 and the best upgrade is the superchips bluefin as it advertises an increase of 42bhp. The problem for me is I don't understand two things
    1) why is their increase so much larger than other companies like AC Shnitzer, P-Torque etc etc
    2) If its the same engine as the 120d which outputs at 160+bhp then chipped to 200bhp why can mine not go to 200bhp? as surely its only the engine management that is stopping it ?(obviously not-please can some one explain)
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    I would PM the guys who are tuning associates of this forum, they will give you a more realistic view on gains.(Motech, emaps and AP Tuning)

    IIRC, one of the respected magazines did a dyno on a bluefin product and it was some way short.

    The 118d may have differences on the intake side to restrict power, not sure, but somebody with more knowledge will be along soon.
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    I think BMW do tend to fit different exhausts on the models with less power, but the same engine (if that makes sense?)

    I know they did with the MINI One - although it had the same engine as the Cooper but detuned from 115bhp to 90bhp, it had a different exhaust that wasn't as good and helped to restrict the power.

    I'm not 100% on the 1 series, so please correct me if I'm wrong.
     
     

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    thanks sam but i was lucky enough to be involed in a shunt 1 week after i got the car last year and as the standard exhaust was going to take over 6 weeks to get to me I got a nice little sporty exhaust that I was told retailed in the £800 range so hopefully that would sort that out. Will take a picture maybe someone will know if its any good, it could be a crappy cheap one for all I know but I think it does look good.
     
     

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    That shouldn't be too much of an issue then - I've had no exerience with Bluefins, people with MINI's rave about them and so do a few people with Fabia VRS's (who have seen some massive gains). The obvious advantage is that you can remap it and unremap it as you need to (to protect warranties etc).

    Equally people seem very happy with the work done by some of the forum vendors - there's a chap on here with a 530 which eh had remapped and was very happy (think it was done by Motech). The advantage of these type of companies is that its done whilst you are there and you get to test it with them etc.
     
     

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  11. Bluefin and 118d/120d differences 
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    Hi, I have used Bluefin previously on a Fiesta Zetec-S diesel. The ease of use and ease of tuning reversal set this apart from remapping. I would thoroughly recommend, I will be purchasing a unit as soon as a can afford, (Probably after xmas now...)

    The differences between the 118d/120d/123d are not as subtle as just engine management changes all use the same 2.0l diesel engine, but there are also some small but effective changes to key engine components to increase power output.

    The 123d obviously has the twin stage turbo chargers to add additional power.

    The 120d has revised fuel injectors to improve power output

    The 118d is the stock injection unit an variable vane turbo.

    Hence the ECU remap will always yield greater power output from the 120 due to its ability to deliver more fuel.

    Hope this is of use.
     
     

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    As above.. The 118d are good to tune se good numbers. Most good tunes will see a gain of about the 40hp and 65-70nm's
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