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  1. 2004 E60 530D Auto – Transmission oil and filter change, job done! 
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    In an effort to give something back to everyone who has helped me so far, i just thought i would share my experiences of changing the automatic transmission oil on my car, a definitive guide, as it were...

    The parts i used were:-

    Transmission Oil 10 litres, Shell ATF M-1375.4, £180 – Supplier:- (smith and allen) http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Shell-ATF-M-13...item45f427ed47

    Transmission Sump / Filter, £65.10 – Supplier http://www.britishparts.co.uk/.sc/ms...20FILTER%20KIT

    We used a two post lift to perform the work.

    We heated the oil (in its containers) to 40 degrees centigrade with a bucket with hot water (shaking the oil container ensuring there were no hot spots in the oil).
    We used a digital thermometer (from maplin £20) to take the oil temperatures before and after applying.

    The job took two hours to complete (bearing in mind we had never done this before).

    I obtained a full procedure from ZF, which i will try to attach to this post (if it won’t attach, perhaps one of our friendly moderators could help me with this).

    Briefly (but refer to the procedure):-

    With the engine and gearbox warm (and turned off), we undid the fill plug on the side of the gearbox and 1.5 litres of pissed out of the fill hole. We then removed the sump plug and a further 2 litres came out. We replaced the sump plug and refilled the gearbox as far as we could. It took only about 2 litres before reaching the top (1.5 litres less than was taken out – with the engine off we could not get any more in)

    The oil that came out was black and not very clean, we later found that the sump was covered in a black/grey sludge.

    We ran the engine in park (we assume that this runs the pump) for about two minutes and selected every gear (N, R, D) for three second each, then shut down.
    We subsequently drained the gearbox using the sump plug and removed the sump / filter assembly.

    Following the procedure; we fitted the new sump and refilled as high as we could. It took about 2.5 - 3 litres at this stage.

    Again we fired up the engine and run in park and each gear for 3 seconds, with the engine running and back in park, we could now fit an additional litre in the box (ENGINE RUNNING - IN PARK). We repeated this procedure and again we fitted another litre in the box. Repeating a third time, we could not fit anymore oil in the box and replaced the fill plug.

    The level must have been slightly lower than ZF recommend in their refilling procedure!

    The car has only done 70k, I wanted to do this as a preventative measure. As a spin off though, the oil and filter change has made a difference. When approaching roundabouts and pressing the accelerator, the minor bumb i once had, has now gone. The gear changes and dropdown is barely noticeable – its like new!

    If you saw what came out of the “sealed for life” gearbox after only 70k, i think you would be doubting what “life” means.

    I hope this helps someone out there!
     
     

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    Apparently the amount you get in is really temperature dependent. The cooler the gearbox is the more oil you can get in. After running the engine for 5 mins the oil will be at 50C (time to let it cool down).

    My local independent said I'd need to buy a pump because you need to get the oil in quickly.

    A further tip is that 40C is a hot bath temperature and 50C is really too hot to hold so if you can get your hand on a metal part of the gearbox you can judge its temperature quite well.

    If you didn't get enough fluid in I'd be tempted to check it again running from cold. Should get to 30C very fast indeed so fill it immediately until it overflows.

    P.S. Nice set of PDF's!

    P.P.S. Thanks for writing it up, although I have done tonnes of research on this my car is at 73k and I haven't changed the oil yet, but will soon.
     
     

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    I have been thinking about getting this done for a while now and your write up is heading me more and more to getting it done now really good right up top man!


    Report back in a few months with a update as to how its going!

    Matt
     
     

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    A few additional notes:-

    The ZF manual says tighten the plastic sump plug to 8Nm, when we removed the old one, we tried this on the old unit and damaged the thread . The plug has an O ring to seal the plug. We therefore tightened the new unit by hand using common sense , it has not leaked and has had some miles since. I will be checking again in the next few days.

    Sorry, the transmission oil link does not work, I purchased the oil from smith and allan through ebay.

    The thermometer (from maplin), was digital and had a temperature probe making it easy to take oil temperatures from inside the gearbox and the oil prior to application.

    We used a syringe type pump with a 2ft length of clear plastic hose (easy to get into the restricted gearbox fill hole). The syringe held just under 1 litre per application and is quick to fill and deploy.

    Just to make it clear, we ended up putting approximately 1 litre more oil in the box than what we removed. However all temperatures were correct, car level and procedures followed.
     
     

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    Great write up. Would you consider doing mine with me later in the year as a lot of indys refuse to do it or don't know how to do it! I'm in Leeds so local?
     
     

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    Well done Razzman!

    Warming the oil in buckets, that does show deication and love for you car

    I love the bit on one of the PDF's you posted, where it says an "oil purification is required at 80,000-120,000 for offensive, sporty driving style". I don't like to hang around but never really regard myself as "offensive" so my fill for life must apply after all!!!

    I have a pump similar to this for filling gearboxes:-

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Sealey-1-Ltr-M...item5adda22440

    Keeps it reasonably mess free but needs to be flushed thouroughly for differant types.

    Reckon you should set up a little sideline doing ZF trasmission oil changes now! Probably won't make much though with the oil costing nigh on £100 a can!
     
     

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    Razzman all excellent info.

    One last question, exactly how much fluid did you use (i.e. what have you got left from your 10 litres). At £18 a litre I don't want to buy too much!
     
     

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    Here's a turn up for the books:

    Thought I'd see if I could source the ATF locally (so I could get approximately the right amount and then get more in a hurry if I need it)....

    Contacted a local transmission specialist (recommended by my local BMW specialist) Bristol Transmissions Ltd.

    ZF6HP26 sir....we do a fixed price service on those...£200 + VAT.

    Test drive, read faults
    Replace sump
    Replace as much fluid as possible (can't get it all out)
    Test drive
    Run diagnostics with a laptop

    They have the sump and Shell ATF M-1375.4 in stock.

    Now I usually prefer to do jobs like this myself, but the parts will cost me the same and these people do it so often they have the parts in stock and offer it as a fixed price service.
     
     

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